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I agree that any of the MacGregor classics, the 26S or 26D, would do just fine for your purposes. Neither is slow and neither has much if anything to do with the powersailor Macs, the X and M. They are very affordable, durable, good for mods with many web resources for them, easy to trailer, plenty of room including a queen size berth under the cockpit. I do not think you can find better value in the trailer sailer market than an S or D. Some of the negative comments above were founded on mistaken belief, i.e., that a Mac 26s is a powersailer, and can be totally discounted.
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....Plus 2 interesting models that i've stumbled onto: the Holder 20 and the Rodgers 24, .... Holder seems super small, but fast (and low, makes me think she can't be a dry boat....).
The Holder 20 is a fast fun boat but is really no more than a big racing dinghy and is mostly cockpit. I'm sure she's a wet boat in a breeze.

The literature says sleeps 4, but it's gotta be cramped and you'd be "camper cruising" for sure.

From pictures the Rodgers looks like a performer too, but with more emphasis on cabin space and a much smaller cockpit. Either looks easily trailerable, which fits that requirement of yours.
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Well,
unsuccessfull at finding an adequate US21, seems I'll be getting a Hunter 212.
Trading (only a bit of, I hope) performance for the fun of the open transom and ease of use.

found one in Maine but Keel is damaged, and another one in Michigan which seems in great shape, but more$$ and further away (my marina is in VT). The Maine 212's bottom is painted, whereas the Michigan 212 is not (although it's a freshwater boat).

Is cheaper worth it? I mean the Keel is repairable, heck , I could even use the opportunity to add some weight to the centerboard (it only weighs 130lbs, figure I could go up to 200lbs)
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Sailing on Lake Champlain, I can tell you two things. First, don't worry about draft. There are very few places on Champlain where you have to concern yourself with water depth. Anything less than 7' draft and you'll be fine for 80%+ of the lake. You don't really want to visit the places that are shallower. Second, don't underestimate the lake. It blows over 40kts several times during the season, and can get some pretty square waves when the wind is blowing the length of the lake. Being 125 miles long, you can get some pretty good fetch north to south and vice-versa. In other words, weight is helpful as is the ability to deeply reef. It's not Lake Ontario or another great lake, but she'll get you just the same...

By the way, you might want to add the Precision 23 to your list. It's a nice combination between performance and cruising with decent accommodations for its size. It's a lot more traditional than similar sized Hunters, Catalinas's, etc.
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Thanks for the info,
I'm starting to wonder if the Hunter 212 doesn't have some sort of internal ballast at the bottom of its hull , as some owners have said it's a pretty stable boat even if the centerboard is light. It would make sense since it's the same size and construction as the Hunter 216 but weighs 1800 vs. 1350 (plus the 216 has a 500lb hydraulic keel). That being said, here's hoping that a 70lbs of extra weight on the centerboard will make a difference....

So basically, I'll take a chance with the 212 for this year, while still keeping a eye out for other models, with the US21 still at the top of my list. I'll probably be spending most of this 1st summer on the inland sea anyway

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Zemaniak,

Your getting a Hunter 212? Cool. I enjoy mine.

I have a Catalina 22 and the Hunter 212. The Catalina is in a slip and I trailer the Hunter.

You found my Youtube Video Sailing on Kaweah

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The Hunter Dealer here in town told me on the Hunter 212 there are weights inside the hull to supplement the weight of the keel.

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Another good boat you might want to look at is the Kittiwake 23.

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