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Question Reinforced Bilge?

As posted in another thread, I looked at a late model Pearson recently. The owner had obviously neglected this boat for some time, and ther was very little equipment. The boat had some moisture issues with the deck, so I'm continuing to search for another boat.

One thing that has been puzzling me, and I still can not figure out, was what was going on in the bilge? It seemed as though the entire bilge had been reinforced with 1/2 inch of heavy glass. Whoever did it, did a very thourough job. Here is a (crappy) picture:


You can see that it is almost 1/2 inch thick on the sides of the compartment. Extra layers were on the horizontal surfaces. The limber holes had been re-drilled so that water could drain from one compartment to another. You can see one limber hole toward the left side of the picture. In this picture, foreward = right, aft = left. That's the mast step on the right. Every compartment had the same treatment.

Any ideas of what was going on here?

Thanks in advance for your insight and theories!

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Another clue?

Hmmmm.... Over two hours and no comments.

Well, maybe this would add some fuel to the fire. I noticed that the keel joint was not fair. I believed at that time that this was a separate issue, but have since reconsidered... It is possible that the keel was loose enough that water was penetrating the joint, and working its way past the keel bolts. Perhaps the extra glass was the PO's attempt at solving this?

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It is possible that the keel was loose enough that water was penetrating the joint, and working its way past the keel bolts. Perhaps the extra glass was the PO's attempt at solving this?
Or, perhaps just the opposite - bilge water was penetrating into the keel, so the PO isolated the bilges. I can't imagine someone would compartmentalize the bilges like that to prevent water from rising from below. How was the "lower" bilge drained of standing water?

Another theory - is that glassed-in bilge used as an after-market sump for collecting grey water from the shower(s)- thereby separating it from the engine bilge?

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Thanks TB!

I don't think so though. I pointed out in my first post that the limber holes, which were initially glassed over, were re-cut, thus reconnecting the bilge in all the compartments. I believe that the re-cutting was done immediately after the glass had set.

I am glad that I am not alone in not being able to figure this out.

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I can't imagine why he did that either but after looking at the photos I think you were wise to walk away.
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Thanks tes.... For a peek at the deck on this boat, and the reason that I bailed on it, look here

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Thanks tes.... For a peek at the deck on this boat, and the reason that I bailed on it, look here

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Yes, you definitely did the right thing. That boat looks like it could have eaten you alive.
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Good idea to walk on that one.

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The separation indications are clear, but i wouldn't think it looks that troublesome. What would give me pause is that the additional glassing is clearly related to the keel, and a proper address of the situation would require dropping the keel, and proper bedding of the keel back to the hull. What i find surprising is that the additional glassing wasn't masked or other wise "professionally" completed. Finally the keel bolts should have been tightened to address the separation line, and fairing would have been performed.

Amateur job, but we’re all guilty as sailors of singlehanding as some level, but a keel job? That takes the cake.

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Thanks guys.

I really appreciate knowing that you'd have made the same decision.

I didn't connect the bilge lining to the keel separation until I thought about it today. In fact, that still may not be the case, and that is the reason for my original post. I wanted to know if I was missing something obvious. I'd still like to hear from anyone ele with other theories.

If peteingras is right, and this guy actually tried his own keel job ... well you'd think that he would have at least tried to clean up the toerails, handholds or the interior, so as to distract from the additional homegrown glass work ...

However, there were plenty of other issues with this boat to make the decision to walk. (NO - as in none, zip, nada - electronics, cracks in the deck, water penetration all over the deck, water in the bilge - presumably came through the deck, rusting chainplates, I could go on...) There are currently 16 similar boats ('85+ Pearson 33, or 38) advertised in YW.

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