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Dan: The C&C's were likely Canadian built so there is no problem in bringing them back. There would be no issues either if they were U.S. built boats (or Mexican for that matter) due to NAFTA. Several posters on Sailnet have imported boats and I've checked in the past with the CRA. The G.S.T. is payable as is provincial sales tax (assuming you are not in Alberta). One issue to inquire about is avoiding paying sales tax in the state where you are buying the boat if it is for export to Canada.
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Go for the unraced 32. I own a C&C design and have raced on many models, and they are really beautiful sailers in most conditions and very safe when you understand their "little ways". But the fatal flaw on C&Cs is the balsa-core deck and the fact that they usually go through a freeze-thaw cycle every winter. Racing strains the deck fitting and the deck to hull join, plus the usual stuff like stanchion bases, winch bases, etc. This can lead to water intrusion, and not all C&C (or many to my knowledge) had solid fibreglass where the thru-bolts attach the deck gear to the underside of the cabins, and where fender washers serve instead of the better option of backing plates. Also, the wiring in many older C&Cs is strictly house-grade...not remotely to today's code.

A freshwater-only one will generally be in better condition than a salt-water one, but you MUST get a survey to determine the real state of affairs. Think of it as a bargaining chip, because a survey WILL reveal issues in a C&C, but you can live with some issues, and others, not so much. Good luck. Where would you be sailing out of?
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As far as importing a boat into Canada if the boat is made in North America, which C&Cs are, there is no duty. GST always applies. There is no PST on used boats imported into Quebec and there is no PST in Alberta. If you are going to register the boat use a Quebec or Alberta hailing port and avoid PST.
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his prices are in Canadian dollars.
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What would be the price to purchase a furling rig?

Are there any good online shops that are recommended so that I can browse some of the costs associated with equipment.

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I am based in Calgary, Alberta and would be mooring the boat in Victoria. So can I register the boat in Calgary and keep it on the coast to save costs on the tax?

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Boats built and sold before GST was introduced do not have to pay it. They have the old FST built in and are exempt IIRC.
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Skypilot, the only port of registration in Alberta is Edmonton. As far as FST vs GST that certainly is worth checking out. Since the boat is being imported it may not be GST exempt as the FST may not have been paid when it was exported.
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Boats built and sold before GST was introduced do not have to pay it. They have the old FST built in and are exempt IIRC.
Possible.... my son only recalls paying one tax on a 1973 boat imported in 2005 - that would have been PST. Worth confirming....

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I am based in Calgary, Alberta and would be mooring the boat in Victoria. So can I register the boat in Calgary and keep it on the coast to save costs on the tax?

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Yes you can... take a look around Sidney Harbour marina - most boats are Alberta licensed.

BTW big difference between "registry" and "licencing" in Canada. Licencing is free and uncomplicated, you get a "BC (or ALberta) number" to apply to the boat... And you can claim any hailing port you like.

Registering involves name searches, fees, and a "blue book" - and your vessel goes into the Canadian Shipping Registry. There are advantages, one of which is not having to display a "number" on the hull of the vessel.
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