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Old 05-01-2008
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Very sweet boat Capn, and I noted on the listing it was crafted in Bristol, RI - on Narragansett Bay, our sailing grounds. Best of luck with the sea trial and transporting her to NC.

I have to admit though, that swing keel trunk really divides and gobbles up cabin space - but suppose it's the trade off for such a shallow draft.
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Thanks all,
I have to admit that my decision was driven by the fact that I really did like the look of the boat and more importantly the admiral really liked the boat. That mostly had to do with its condition, it appears to be a very dry boat and the inside smells great and is clean. There is no main bilge, because of the swing keel, there are bilge compartments

and they appear to have hardly ever held water, so I am guessing the boat is pretty dry. The lack of open space is made up for by some engineering for the table and nav station, both of which fold up against the keel bulkhead. The walkthru head makes it large, for showers and changing, and convenient from the fore and aft of the boat. So as you say there is a trade-off with open space in the cabin, but we are ok with that.
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The only other hull you will want is a tender.

Unless it comes with one (this in response to Chuckles' humorous remark).
It looks and sounds like a wonderful boat. The only question I have (searched but could not find the answer) is how much draft you have with the centerboard down?
Speaking of tender, I wonder how much sail you can actually 'wear' with the C/B all the way up? Also related is how much the C/B weighs; righting moments etc. My ancient Tartan 27' has a C/B with a nominal draft of 3'6", maximal 6' and can be sailed with the board all the way up with plenty of leeway (a lot less leeway with the board down). I also find that motoring my boat with the board down gives much improved steering ability (as an engineer you will understand this better than I). These are performance issues that you have not doubt already thought of but will want to consider during your sea trial. I trust it will go well.
If you wanted a crew for part of the delivery to NC, I may be able to help get you south of NYC (timing being everything of course).
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CalebD,
All good questions and I only have second hand answers at this point for some of them. With the keel down the draft is close to 6'. The keel is lead and weighs close to 4,000 lbs. Here is a picture from inside the cabin partition showing the lifting lines.

There is also a hydraulic cylinder, attached to these lines, that prevents the keel from just dropping too quickly.

This is some heafty engineering only matched by the lifting rudder which is also lead and adjusts from 3'6" down to the shallow draft of 1'10" when up.
The prop has its own skeg

and this helps in steering the boat when motoring and the keel is in the up position. With the keel up I assume there will be lots of lee way, but the mass of the keel is still pretty low in the boat and acts like ballast, so I have been told that it is not really tender (healing) at all.

The sea trial should prove most interesting and is coming up next week. I did contact both the original owner, who had her designed and sailed her extensively, as well as the builder about these very issues and the responses I received where that they both wished they still had this boat! Note: there where only 7 of these boats made from the late 1980's to early 90's. This one is number 5. One of the earlier 'Clearwaters' has circumnavigated the globe. They took 7 years to do it, must have been one great trip.

I will keep you in mind when I am considering making my trip. Do you have experience through Hell's gate down to Jersey?

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Thanks, my intention is to sail her, but I thought people might be interested in knowing the cost of trucking a boat this size 500 miles. It was less than I thought given the cost of diesel.
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Capt she is a beauty. Congradualtions on your well thought out choice. I have a rod rigged boat and I have had the rigging inspected and its worn very well with absolutely no problems.

I would suggest a route I have taken 6 times and will actually be tracing this summer with 4 boats from our yacht club. We are near Baltimore and do the Chesapeake to C&D Canal to the Delaware River to Cape May to Atlantic City to Manesquan to the Liberty Marina ( at the Statue of Liberty) up the East River through Hell Gate and out the Long Island Sound to Mystic Conn.

This take 7 days by itself. If you need a hand on any of the days moving her let me know and I will see if I have off.

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Dont believe geico and progressive..they could not even beat State Farms rates...maybe if they did not mail you 4 letters every week saying they could, they would actually be able to give you the deal instead of paying the postman..)....I ended up with state farm because I have been insured for 30 years with my cars...NOBODY could beat them.

oh and NICE BOAT!!!

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Nice boat! You can go gunkholing almost anywhere with that 1'10" draft. Quite a beaut. I was a bit surprised when I saw the partition inside and wondered why it was split down the middle. At first, I thought you were joking with us and bought a multi-hull. Of course, now I understand with the fully retractable centerboard. Quite ingenious, really.
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CapnRon47,
That is some centerboard at 2 tons! Thanks for the great photos.
I have gone down the East River twice and back up once in the last 5 years on different boats. Each trip I planned the tides and current timing myself. It is really not that hairy if you get the currents/timing right. The most unnerving part of the trip can be the commercial traffic (tugs w/barges etc) in the tight parts of the channel (monitor vhf channel 13). All weather permitting of course.
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CalebD,
Thanks, that is what I understand from others who have made that trip, like many things in life it is all in the timing.
At 2 tons, you don't want to be adjusting the keel a lot.
The keel lift line is on a two speed winch on the cabin top, but I suspect it takes some cranking to raise it. I have only seen it in the full down position, where it fills the slot.

I understand that the elliptically shaped keel fills the slot again at the half extended position with a depth of about 3'6". This is the position I will use to get into our creek in NC, under adverse wind tide conditions (such as they have been recently). In the fully retracted position the boat nearly planes downwind with full sail, that should be fun.

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I considered two insurance companies, BoatUS (naturally) and USAA (ex military). I will probably go with the USAA, the rates are about the same, but the area coverage is greater with USAA and I use them for home owners insurance and I am happy with their service (I have heard good things about BoatUS as well). I did join BoatUS and may buy their unlimited towing insurance as towing costs have gone out of sight. However, USAA has additional towing coverage that may be more economical, I have not finished the comparisons yet.
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