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If I get the jist of this, trust the surveyor while asking lots of questions, and discount the opinions of the selling broker. Take as much time as needed, then use the findings of the survey and sea trial to negotiate the final price.
That is basically it. However, don't expect to have any major changes because of the price. On my first boat the survey didn't show anything major and the closing was a week later at the agreed on price. For my second boat the survey showed minor things (a few navigation lights didn't work, some rigging wasn't run right, etc.). I had the seller correct those problems before closing on the boat.

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Ask for a list of all repairs done on the boat. If they didn't keep a list/log, they didn't take care of the boat!
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Go over it like you would buying a used car (or new for that matter). Get into every nook and cranny (you'll pick up things that the surveyor may not). Look for broken items, dark colored wood that indicates wood rot, check and make sure all the buttons, switches, etc work and if not labeled what they are used for etc, check all the bildge accesses, locate all the tanks and seahulls...

Take time to also chat with the owner if on board and ask questions - but more importantly ask them what they found to be weaknesses or annoyances with the boat - and what you should be aware of in terms of the boats quirks...

You'll be surprised how forth coming people are when asked directly.

Most of all - after clamoring around and soaking where things are - take a few moments to relax and consider if this is the boat you see yourself doing whatever style of sailing you intend...
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Go over it like you would buying a used car (or new for that matter). Get into every nook and cranny (you'll pick up things that the surveyor may not). Look for broken items, dark colored wood that indicates wood rot, check and make sure all the buttons, switches, etc work and if not labeled what they are used for etc, check all the bildge accesses, locate all the tanks and seahulls...

Take time to also chat with the owner if on board and ask questions - but more importantly ask them what they found to be weaknesses or annoyances with the boat - and what you should be aware of in terms of the boats quirks...

You'll be surprised how forth coming people are when asked directly.

Most of all - after clamoring around and soaking where things are - take a few moments to relax and consider if this is the boat you see yourself doing whatever style of sailing you intend...
This is all very good advice - but this is something you should have done long before the sea trial. IMHO, the sea trial is really just the icing on the cake. Way BEFORE you make an offer on the boat you should be crawling all over it looking to see what is wrong. Then, if it passes your test, you make the offer. Then you negotiate with the broker / owner. Then you arrange for the survey. Only after the survey has been done (at least most of it) should the sea trial occur (really, it's the last part of the survey).

If the surveyor finds serious problems with the boat, why would you waste your (and everyone else's) time on a sea trial?

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If the surveyor finds serious problems with the boat, why would you waste your (and everyone else's) time on a sea trial?

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I do them both at the same time myself as it saves me the frustration. Although I agree, I would never make a offer on a boat until I have done my own surveyor like inspection, but its his first boat and first experience doing this. Now is the time he can back out of the deal since survey is done / sea trail, counter get the price it should go for, and if not then decide if 19K is really worth it considering better maintained models are at that price...
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