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John, the op said he has 40k to spend. that would rule out the 36 Beneteau cc . But it would be a good for for the purpose. I second the Catalina 34.
Oops! Bubb's absolutely correct that the 36CC is not in the OP's <$40K price range.

But just to clarify, I was following Cam's lead and responding to the "hi-jack" questioner, not the OP (I didn't see a price range from him). Sorry about the misunderstanding.
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There are a few smaller boats with a private aft cabin (C&C 30-2, Catalina 309 for example). Having been on a few smaller boats with an aft cabins, I can't say I find it an attractive feature. Too confining and poor ventilation. I had one broker call them the "aft coffin". Best layout I've seen for a small-mid sized racer/cruiser was on a Cal 33-2. Very large open aft quarterberth with a privacy curtain.
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chsjohn describes almost exactly what I'm looking for as well, but I have the additional requirement to have 2 private (e.g. closing door) berths, ideally with a large quarter/stern berth......BAtkins
Any second cabin in the size boat you are looking for will be a joke and should be avoided like a plague. We had a Beneteau First 30E for a few years which had an aft cabin. The net of the boat layout was that it simply stunk...the aft cabin was like sleeping in a coffin. You need to have some realistic understanding of what space you get in that size boat and what can be done with it. the fact that a designer shoehorns in two cabins doesn't mean the result is a good idea, or that you'd find the layout satisfactory.

If you really want two cabins, I'd say you need to move up to the low 40's in size.
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The hijacker said his price criteria was much the same as the OPs.
OOPS! I saw where he mentioned similar and additional requirements for the boat, but I guess I missed where he mentioned price range!
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SF...please explain how the second cabin in an Oday32cc is a joke.



...and the cabin:
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The hijacker said his price criteria was much the same as the OPs.
Oh NO! Now I'm indelibly marked as, "The Hijacker" Seriously, I in no way meant to derail (no, I'm not the "derailer!") this thread. I asked because I thought, perhaps the answers might be relevant to the OP.

In any case, much thanks to everyone, including for the OP's patience. I'm gonna post a new question on this, so as to hopefully return this thread to it's original subject.
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SF...please explain how the second cabin in an Oday32cc is a joke.



...and the cabin:
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Sure, I'll give that a shot. First the cabin appears to consist of a bunk for two, period. there is little if any storgae, there is not room enough for two adults to dress at the same time, and to visit the head at night you need to open two hatches and cross the cocpit. I guess the question I'd have is whether you would want to spend a week in there with the missus. I would not. I guess a coffin for two is still a coffin.
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Sounds like the aft cabin on the Corsair 31. To go forward, you can either get on your belly and crawl, or go on deck and down the main companionway. Doesn't sound like a real three-cabin boat IMHO.
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Thanks for all the great replies. No worrys about the hijacking, found it interesting info.

Just out of curiosity what about a Nonsuch 26? The do fit my price range (the 30's are just a little to pricey for me). I think they're pretty well built (although cored). Very simple rig (not much different than my Laser racing expirience). Seem pretty fast downwind, and not to bad to windward just won't point as high. The also seem to have a decent sized diesel in the newer ones (good for cruising the ditch) and are fairly shallow draft 4'-6". Not to mention they may save me a little in slip fees. Are there any hidden pitfalls to these rigs???

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