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thanks for the idea ill have to look into the southern cross 28 and 30. i assume the 30 would be more desireable.

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yeah i have read that blog. thats what got me very interested in the Triton. The boat just looked so rugged and still has the classic lines.

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well if i could get either boat that cheap i could put 15-20 to restore it to its former glory. is the Alberg 35 easily single handed?

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They didn't make a SC 30, but a 28, 31, 35, 37.
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Wow i just looked at some picuters of a sc28 and a sc31. They look like very solid bluewater boats. The SC28 looks like it would be in my price range, unless i found a SC31 cheaper. How does the SC28 compair to the Triton and the Alberg30 is size, capabilities, storage space, water tanks?
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I personally wouldn't want to go offshore in either boat. While both are solid boats, my limit would be something 35+ feet, preferably 40+. Your prices seem high for both boats. These are 40 year old boats! I would think either should be available for $10K or less. A very good friend sold his Triton a few years back for $5,500. Figure on spending at least $10K or more to get them up to snuff. Did you consider an Alberg 35? Same pedigree, but closer to the size I would consider a minimum for going offshore.
Strong boats of any size that you like are the right boats to take offshore. Paloma (Bristol 29.9) has been on the Galveston to Vera Cruz and Galveston to Isla Mujeres races (1300 miles round trip each) and has weathered two Force 10 storms in the Gulf of Mexico one for 48 hours and the most recent in March of this year for 36 hours of (according to Coast Guard New Orleans) winds gusting over 60 and 28-30 foot seas. From 50 years of sailing, I assure you, we would have been no better off in a larger boat. Remember, Tanya Ebby (sp?) went around the world in a 26 foot boat.
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Tania Aebi. the boat, Varuna, was a Contessa 26.

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Strong boats of any size that you like are the right boats to take offshore. Paloma (Bristol 29.9) has been on the Galveston to Vera Cruz and Galveston to Isla Mujeres races (1300 miles round trip each) and has weathered two Force 10 storms in the Gulf of Mexico one for 48 hours and the most recent in March of this year for 36 hours of (according to Coast Guard New Orleans) winds gusting over 60 and 28-30 foot seas. From 50 years of sailing, I assure you, we would have been no better off in a larger boat. Remember, Tanya Ebby (sp?) went around the world in a 26 foot boat.
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The SC28 is a bit smaller than an Alberg 30 and fairly comparable to the Triton in terms of size. As for capabilities, all three are fairly capable boats, the limiting factor generally being the captain and crew. Many of the Southern Crosses were factory built, owner finished, so their interior plans can vary quite a bit, as can the stowage and tankage. It depends on which particular Southern Cross you're looking at. Two more possible boat swould be the Albin Vega or the Albin Cumulus.

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Wow i just looked at some picuters of a sc28 and a sc31. They look like very solid bluewater boats. The SC28 looks like it would be in my price range, unless i found a SC31 cheaper. How does the SC28 compair to the Triton and the Alberg30 is size, capabilities, storage space, water tanks?
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Wow i just looked at some picuters of a sc28 and a sc31. They look like very solid bluewater boats. ....
I get a kick out of the look like comments, that reflect a perception that pointy ends, high cutaways, short rigs and dysfunctional sailplans are in some way bluewater characteristics...perhaps the subconscious thought is that they aren't good for much else, so they must be good for bluewater.

The PO of my boat related to me that he sailed on a number of other boats before making his bluewater decision. One boat he remembered most vividly was a week on a Westsail 32...the vivid memory was that with the bluff bows, high weight and short rig, the boat could not sail to weather in rough water. Not to dim the dream but looks can be deceiving.
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Tania Aebi. the boat, Varuna, was a Contessa 26. dude, you need better weather planning
Hey, I wish we did have - the first storm about 15 years ago we were 300 miles into the Galveston to Vera Cruz race when we learned of the fast moving storm and the closest land was back the 300 miles to Galveston which would have been heading directly into the storm - turned out we couldn't outrun in in the 350 miles between us and Vera Cruz. In the storm last March we were about 70 miles from the nearest land when we got the Coast Guard warning, the nearest land would have only taken us into the ICW - which could have been worse - so we tried to run Easterly and get onto the edge of the storm - didn't make it - had to run before the storm and ended up about 185 miles south of our rumb line. I've weathered bigger storms in the Atlantic back in the 60's aboard my dad's old Hinckley B40, but not as bad, because those storms weren't driven by cold fronts, those gales were were driven by lows.
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And while what tanya did was amazing, daddy flew over 3000 miles with new sails, again with engine parts, she went over 3 months without lights or power, (or some such silliness).. what I'm saying is it wasn't all sunshine lollipops and rainbows...
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