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Old 09-06-2008
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Is this a good deal?

Ok Here's the deal.

I'm driving home the other day when I notice a sailboat for sale in a lot on the side of the road. It looks to be about a 22 or there abouts so I make note of it for later.

Well I dropped by today and talked to the lot owner (who happens to also own the boat) and here's what I found out.

The boat is a 1983 J22 with trailer. The guy said the hull was painted in 1999 and from the looks of it, is in great shape. I could not see bubbles or deformities in the gelcoat. He also said he had something like 18 sails for it including some that were carbon fiber. He also said some had not even been used. On the mast head it had the usual windtell but also had a windspeed/direction sender and matching bulkhead guages. He also said he had a number of brand new teak pieces made for it that he hasn't installed yet.

Now for the bad stuff. The only real problem I saw with the boat was the mast. According to him one of the stays broke and the mast pirouetted and ripped the step out. The step was still attached to the mast along with a chunk of fiberglass about 8 inches in diameter.

His asking price is $3000.00 and he says he might even throw in a 9 hp outboard. He also said he can probably get the mast fixed up for cheap (or free if I didn't mind waiting a while).

So what do you all think? is it worth it or should I let it pass? I think this size boat would be perfect for learning multiple sails and teaching my wife too. It also come with a trailer which it a necessity since I only have one slip right now and my 20 ft bow rider is in it.

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He also said he can probably get the mast fixed up for cheap (or free if I didn't mind waiting a while).
Then why hasn't he had it fixed ? Ask yourself that.
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He "said" it just happened recently and he hasn't had the time since buying the lot it's sitting on (which is true, the lot did recently change hands).

However he does act like a fast talkin salesman which is why I posted the question. I've seen other J22s for $7000-$8000 and up without the problems so I'm just wondering whether it would cost too much to repair to be worth it.
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With the engine, I'd say that was a good deal IF there is nothing else wrong and the boat does not have other damage or the mast itself is not damaged. Certainly, the deck step should be fairly easy to repair but I doubt that that is all that is wrong with the boat. When a mast rips out of the deck...usually other stuff is compromised. Im sure a surveyor could tell you more and even for $3k I would get one in this case.
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Hmmm... a repair to the deck, where the mast step was has to be pretty strong. What happened to the compression post?? In many boats, the compression post is bolted to the mast step...that's the way it is on my boat.

I'd second what Cam said... if NOTHING else is wrong, this might be a good deal....however, I am pretty certain that something else is going to be wrong.
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I'll have to do some more checking to see if there is any more damage. It was up on the trailer so I couldn't see the deck to see how bad it is. However, there was nothing bolted to the bottom of the mast step. All I could see was the underside of the fiberglass and could see the underside of the bolts attached to the step. I also haven't seen inside the cabin but he says the cushions are in "like new" condition.

One thing I will say is he wasn't able to put it on the trailer right. The boat was sitting pretty much level compared to the ground but the tow hitch was about 4 feet in the air. I told him he needs to take it to a marina with a lift to put it on right.

One more thing. Approx how much would it cost for a survey on something like this?
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