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Losing Sleep - Sanibel 18 or Montgomery 17

I have been reading everything I can about these two trailerable pocket cruisers, and am distraught over which to buy. Sanibel 18 supposedly has better sleeping space... Montgomery has better self righting abilities and sails more stiffly, which would please my little ones. I love the looks of the Monty, but was wondering if there is a centerboard trunk that intrudes into the cabin? A 360 degree tour of the M17 would provide answers to my interior layout questions. The Sanibel, I understand, is open below, and will beach quite well, which is an important feature in the multiple places I sail, however, the Sanibel by comparison to the M17 is a little more tippy at least for the first few degrees, then stiff after that. The M17 draws 1'9" which would make it a litte more difficult to beach, but not impossible. If I had the money, I would buy a new Compac Eclipse 21, as I understand it is very simple to rig, and would provide my family of four with a little more room.
Non-negotiables: a well equipped used trailerable sailboat that sleeps 2 adults/2 kids on occasion (even if I have to sleep in the cockpit) ... safe in the Gulf of Mexico, but could beach on a cute little island we have in lake Sam Rayburn, and sail in the Destin, Florida Bay, with jaunts into the Gulf of Mexico twice per year. Last non-negotiable: she must point like a dream, because I sail the Neches River which is narrow, and sometimes certain areas of Sam Rayburn are narrow to sail due to stumpy and mossy areas. AHHHH! Owners of the Sanibel18 love their boats. The Montgomery owners love their vessels as well. If I could see both in person it would help, but I am relegated to tracking down all the stats. I would love to see a size comparison of both Vberths, and quarter berths, and all the jazz... tired of losing sleep... AHHHH!
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I can't help much with a choice but I had a Montgomery 17 for a short time and I really loved it. I might have to get another one some day. The Monty is a fun and stable little boat. Good luck with your choice.
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I'd vote for the Monty 17... There's one that was custom built for a circumnavigation...
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Oooh, That's a tough decision, I love the design of both of these boats, they are designs I researched heavily as well before buying my O'day. I guess it comes down to if you value performance or space, the Sanibel has more space, the Montgomery performs better, but has a stub keel and can't be beached. The sanibel has a huge interior for it's size, and can be beached but is not as fast or weatherly as the M17. Both boats look like they have nice deep comfortable cockpits. I guess my advice would be, if you find a nice used example of either one for a good price, buy it. It's nice to know both are still in production and parts are available.
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Congrats on your decision .... I'm sure you will be happy. I hope your two daughters enjoy the boat as much as my three daughters enjoy ours.
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Well, I have finally purchased a trailer sailing boat...after looking at many used boats, in various price ranges. I loved the Mongomery 17 after seeing a used one in person, but it was too small for my family of five (newborn son on Christmas Eve 2008!) to stay on board for a night or two. I found a boat that I have totally overlooked. My perfect world would have been a Compac 23 for trailering and stability, short jaunts into the Gulf, and lake sailing in beautiful southeast Texas. I set a ludicrous price range for myself, as both my wife and I are in graduate school. I ended up purchasing a Chrysler 22 Sandpiper edition sailboat, in immaculate condition, with Galvanized extendable trailer for $3000. The boat was designed by Halsey Herreshoff! She feels like a Compac on the water in terms of stability. there are 2 double berths below and one large and long single berth. The one double is a conversion from a booth style dining area. No standing headroom below, but V-berth is very spacious with lots of space above decks. The boat is solid, with 3000 lbs of displacement... 2000 lbs lead ballast, and 790lb swing keel. I have purchased the boat, and she is still on the water currently, awaiting an appointment for outfitting with bow and stern rails, and lifelines...I hope to get the net type of lifelines, to keep the little ones on board. Patience has yielded a very nice boat and a very affordable boat, one that we can outfit and upgrade and do some sailing in multiple waters. I will take her to the bay at Destin as soon as she is looking smart. I hope to add a bowsprit, and a wheel... I will post pictures as soon as I get her looking smartly. In the meanwhile you guys can see some other Chrysler 22's at Chrysler Sailing Association Website
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Steve,

Congrats!

I looked at some of the photos at the site you linked to. Looks like a good choice for your purposes. Neat boat!

Looking forward to seeing some of your photos.

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Thanks John... Can't wait to get her rigged up and deployed for family giggles.
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Well friends, I have just returned from a somewhat successful sailing trip on my new to me Chrysler 22. The first day out presented learning curves. I had on the large genoa, and the wind came up a little too fresh for it, really hampering my ability to sail the boat. I had to be towed in to shore in humiliation, as my motor was getting repairs in the shop. I was just in a cove on a lake, so there was no danger. The next day, I had a nice family sail, but the wind died down upon return, leaving us on a very slow return to the shore. The following day, my wife and I had an absolutely perfect sail. The wind was in our favor in the cove of the lake and we ventured out into deeper "unprotected waters." We sailed home beautifully. That night I slept on the boat, and opened the forward hatch, which revealed the big dipper framed in absolute glory. The following day, storms threatened our sailing success, but I was able to do my first singlehanded solo sailing trip. We discovered that the boat likes a normal sized jib and she handled beautifully. I also learned that the boat must be treated with a firm hand when coming about, and correcting course must be anticipated, rather than responded to. This single-handed sailing was a huge accomplishment for me, as I was making my own decisions, and sailing to my heart's desire and content for an hour and half. Upon return, I nudged her swing keel against the shore as close as I could get it, and went up to a campsite for a break. A rain shower blew through, and just before sunset, a double rainbow was spotted just over my boat. The final day, today, there were 35 mph winds gusting from the northwest off the lake, and I was unable to get her back onto the trailer due to the ferocity of the wind related to where the boat ramp is. So, she is sitting snugly under two anchors until I can get her gently back on her trailer for another trip. Well, I wanted to write a report of my journeys and adventures, and share some pictures. I know I made mistakes. I know that I am still a sailing rookie, even though this is my third boat. But I am now a single handed sailor, at least for gunkholing. Enjoy the pics everyone.
Steven Hays - Spring Break Sailing 09

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