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1975 C&C 33 .. And C/C hulls, strength, etc?
Hello Sailors.. I have my eye, pirates only have eye, on a 1975 C&C 33
sloop.. This model was built as a racer/cruiser.. probably a little more race
than cruise. I don't race, just cruise. But, her owner is impressive, she is priced right, she has loads of equipment .. et all. Boat statistics: LOA: 33'
LWL: 26' Beam: 10.6' Draft: 5'6" .. and displacement of 9800. My concerns: moisture in the hull, deck and strength of hull. The owner has assured me that the hull is not cored. He has a survey from 4 years back.
But what about the strength? As I wrote, I don't race, just cruise. I will be
taking her offshore, not around the world, but into the Atlantic. If you know: how well constructed are the C/C hulls of this era? Will the hull hold up to offshore sailing? Have you had any experience with model C/C or similar from the era? Do you know anyone cruising in one? Offshore cruising? She is light on the cruise toys, which is ok by me. She has the basics: pooper, alcohol stove, sink, some water,.. blah blah.. She has an Atomic 4 gas engine, I'd like to avoid that but the AT4 is in the boat. At the right price, maybe change out the engine at a later day.
So,, comments welcome. About this C/C and all the C/C hulls, boats, of the
era. She is rather deep draft for some harbors at 5'6" but boats are compromises.. I hear.. Thanks ahead or time.. you all are the best.
Length - 33 ft
W/L - 26 ft
Beam - 10.6 ft
Draft - 5 ft 6 in
Disp - 9800 lbs
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A survey that is four years old doesn't mean JACK. It is worth less than the paper it is printed on. If the boat has been neglected for those four years, the survey will reflect absolutely nothing of the condition of the boat today.
C&C made a pretty decent boat in the day... unlike that brand today. I don't know if the hull is cored or not, IIRC, some of them were, some weren't. Moisture in the deck is an issue...and may or may not be a dealbreaker.
IF the boat is in good condition, there is no reason you couldn't do the type of sailing you're talking about.
Nothing wrong with a properly maintained Atomic 4 btw... they're simple to maintain, simple to operate and near bulletproof.
BTW, welcome to sailnet... I'd highly recommend you read the POST in my signature to help you get the most out of your time here. It has tips on searching sailnet, posting photos, etc.
I'd also highly recommend you read the Boat Inspection Trip Tips thread I started, before going to see said boat.
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I'm pretty sure that the '75 33 is a solid layup hull too. The deck will most certainly be balsa cored, though.
These are a decent design that were from C&C's heydays so if not too neglected she should be a good boat. Enough room for family cruising with enough speed to do well in PHRF if handled properly.
For coastal jaunts in relatively open waters (as opposed crossings) she should do fine, of course you should keep an eye on the weather in any case.
The trick, as always, is to find a good example of these 30+ year old boats. When you do you get a lot of boat for your money!
Good luck.
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The 33-I is an all glass hull, and a very tough one at that. They stand up very well to abuse. A friend has owned the same 33-I for 28 years, and the boat has shown no weaknesses over that period...at all. There's not a lot of volume down below and very little for cruising amenities...for your intenterd use, paying a little more to get into a C&C 35 I or II would be well worth the money.
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Our 24 year old C&C 35 MKIII was a great find 12 yers ago. We have taken trip up the coats from here on the Chesapeake to the LI Sound, Woods Hole, Mystic, Block Island on the outside and in, Hatteras, and Charleston. Most of our sailing is in the Chesapeake though.
C&C of the 70s and 80 are well made, good laminate and glass, sturdy and do well in light, moderate and heavy wind. We have found it to be a sturdy well made all round boat. I have even raced her some as she does have a turb iof speed and does well with a 127 rating. She has her quirks as all boats do, but a well surveyed C&C of that aera is a good value for the money.
Every time we look to move up in size we find we will have to trade off something we like in our boat. Speed....etc.
I would not however buy a newer model opne made after 1995. I do not like the direction they went
Dave
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