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FlyingScot255 01-31-2009 02:48 PM

What's the Best Trailer Sailer Value?
I sail on a 3 mile lake and a 35 mile lake in upstate NY. I'm selling my beloved vintage Flying Scot hull #255 for a new experience in overnight sailing. My priorities include: Under $6k, at least 6 knots, Swing or Shoal Keel, Trailer Sailer, Solo Rigging and Sailing, Used, but well kept, Minimal Maintenance.

I'm considering the following 20-23'ers: Catalina, Precision, Starwind, Aquarius, Seaward, Rhodes, Sirius, Chrysler, Paceship, San Juan, Buccaneer, North American, or the lighter weight: Santana, Spindrift, Venture, US, Merit, Ensenada or Balboa, Freedom, Nimble, Compac. I'd consider the Kells 23 if I could find one -- only 200 built.

Does anyone have any thoughts or experiences that may help me make the right choice? (Please include any known common design flaws with any of the above.) Thanks for your help. -- Dean

pauljohnson1222 01-31-2009 06:58 PM

I have a Precision 23 on the Great Lakes. Great boat, fast, easy to rig, and made very well...

timebandit 01-31-2009 07:35 PM

I know I will take some heat for this but---
MacGregor 25 you might find for that price.
I'm into mine about $2,000.
Looked in storage yards and got it for 1500.

If I had my druthers I would opt for the 26S.
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kgs113 01-31-2009 08:32 PM

Hi Dean,
Good to see your post. I remember you from Whitney Point. I have the bright yellow Rebel. It will be on the market in the spring by the way. I'm currently working in Oneida and bought a Cal 25 on Oneida Lake last year. When the weather breaks I may be able to do some sniffing around the area up there. Drop me a line sometime. KGS one one three at Earthlink dot net.

bljones 01-31-2009 09:17 PM

You can get a really good matilda 20 or 23 with trailer for under $6K if you shop north of the border. I have always liked the accomodations of the matilda over the smaller cats macgregors, etc.

Or how about a Tanzer? Good owner's group, good spares availability, good performance, good value.

eMKay 02-01-2009 01:41 PM

Precision 21, 23, Catalina 22, O'day 192 (mine's for sale:) O'day 222, O'day 23, these are my favorite modern trailerables, all easy to rig, all reasonably quick (have had my 192 to 7kts).

I really like the Precisions as they are very well built, and STILL built so support is there, and they have foam cored decks so maintenance is easier. All the O'days I looked at were solidly built but suffer from some quality issues in the last year or so they were made (1989) mine is one of the last boats they made (wasn't even finished, was bought at bankruptcy auction) has several voids in the deck gelcoat, the hull seems fine though.

bljones 02-01-2009 07:15 PM

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FlyingScot255 02-03-2009 08:42 PM

Thanks for the input gang. I like the Precisions, but they may be a bit overpriced for my wallet. I've ruled out a Macgregor -- unless it's a 22' Venture. I'm undecided on how heavy or accommodating I want to go. If increased size and/or amenities means more challenges in single-handed rigging and sailing, then I think I'll opt for smaller. To eMKay: I hadn't heard of an O'day 192 until you posted your comment, but I would likely choose the foot longer 19'. To bljones: I found the Matilda interesting. Although, it would be rare to find one in really good shape, you had me reading all about it. To kgs113, I remember you and your Rebel on Whitney Point lake, and I will be in touch.

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N0NJY 02-04-2009 10:35 AM

I bought a 25' Venture for learning and training. We've yet to put it in the water, and it needed work, but we're going to be on some rather small lakes with it.

Not sure when you plan to get yours but I'll let you know how it sails when we get her in the water in April.

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