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If you happen to subcribe to "Good Old Boat", just saw on their news letter that in the March issue thye are doing a article on the Tartan 3000.
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We have owned hull 95 [1987] for the last 3+ years. We have been very pleased with our choice. Ours is the keel/centerboard version which might suit for the kind of sailing you have in mind. It drafts 3 foot 4 inch with the board up 6 foot board down. The keel/cb versions displacement is 8350lbs with 4200 lbs ballast .The fin version is 400 lbs lighter. I don't know how many of the 97 hulls are fin versus k/cb. Some of the differences between the 3000 and the 30 are diesel [3000]versus gas engine and the 3000 has aluminium toe rails. Negatives of the 3000 would be lack of interior storage [compared to some other 30 footers] Also check headroom[listed at 6 foot] I'm 5' 10" and in some areas of cabin it"s snug. For us the great sailing characteristics make up for these trade off's. let me know if I can be of further help.
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dbruce85 - thanks for the tip on Good Old Boat. I will check out the March issue.

moxiesml - what engine does your boat have? I noticed some of the 3000's are equipped with the Universal 5411. Suspect this might be slightly underpowerd with only 11 hp. Any comments?

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We have a Universal M18 [14 h.p. 2 cylinder]. I think Tartan switched to these in 83/84. We sail Smith Mountain Lake Virginia ,so lack of h.p. isn't an issue.
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There is a very nice writeup on the evolution of S&S 30 foot designs that is posted on the Sparkman and Stevens Association website. The author discusses both the Tartan 30 and the 3000. Sailnet won't let me post the link, but if you Google S&S and "Tartan 3000" it will show up.


I looked seriously at Tartan 30's last year, and while I very much like the boat I never found the right one for me. I looked at one 3000 and liked it even more, but it turned out the Westerbeke was toast (low compression) so I lost interest. The 3000 has a more modern deck and cockpit layout, with all of the controls led to the cockpit, and the traveler on the bridgedeck instead of back on the transom. It also has a more modern double spreader rig with a lighter mast section, and a more modern underbody, without the skeg that the 30 had. The interior is pretty different too. Some owners noted that the boat lacks adequate storage. The 3000 has a nice nav station against the aft port bulkhead, giving up a quarter berth. The galley is against the stbd aft bulkhead, so there is no quarter berth there either. It has something like 8 opening ports, and I think 2 hatches. The 3000 is somewhat lighter than the 30. The 30 had a solid glass hull. The 3000 is balsa cored above the waterline, solid below. The 3000 rates about 9sec/mile faster than the 30 in PHRF New England. There seem to be a bunch of them for sale around Annapolis these days.
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Found this link: it's a pdf
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