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Tartan 30 vs 3000

Does anyone have any information on the Tartan 30 vs 3000? I am familiar with the 30's and enjoy the way they sail. I don't know much about the 3000's other than physical characteristics, such as deeper draft. Am interested in sailing performance of 3000 vs 30.

My sailing is limited to daysails, weekend outings, and the annual 1-2 week summer cruise.

I recently moved to Wilmington, NC after being boatless and homeless for 1.5 years (work kept me in hotels and long-term apartments in CA and PA). Unfortunately I'm still not very familiar with this area. I am looking for a boat in the 30' range. I will either keep it in Southport or Wrightsville Beach. I have heard great comments about the sailing in Pamlico and Abermerle sounds. Would the Tartan 3000's deeper draft (> 5 ft) prevent sailing in these Sounds?

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From PHRF New England - Handicapping - Base Handicaps , the 30 rates 171 and the 3000 162. I would expect these numbers to reasonably reflect the performance differences in the boats, which is to say "not much". The T30 is a special classic, while the 3000 is also a nice boat, if you feel comfortable with the premium it requires.
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Both are good boats. Since the 30 is now at least 30 years old, it will take a bit of luck to find a nice one. The 3000 is newer and chances of finding a good one are better. Can't comment on the limitations of draft in the NC sounds.
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Be aware that Tartan has had some issues, and if the Tartan 3000 is one of their more recent epoxy-build hulls, you may want to avoid it. Also, if the boat is a newer one, that is supposed to have warranty coverage, getting repairs done under the warranty may be problematic.
The 3000 came out in the early 80s, well before Tartan went to epoxy construction. Long out of warranty.
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Ok...good to know... wasn't sure what the dates on it were.
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The 3000 came out in the early 80s, well before Tartan went to epoxy construction. Long out of warranty.
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The epoxy boats are somewhere from 02 to 04 and newer depending upon the model. Even then, not sure I would worry about an epoxy boat in the first few yrs, the last couple of yrs maybe.

As far as draft goes, unless you are trying to get yourself into a river/stream with low draft, does an extra foot really make a difference in some of the east coast bays and sounds? personally I would think not. I would take the draft of the 3000 and go for it!

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FWIW given the T30's position of prominence as perhaps the best of the '70s racer/cruiser, many have been cherished by knowledgeable owners who have taken very good care of them. Not that you can't find plenty of dogs...but I have seen a number of T30s that are doubtlessly in better shape now than when brand new, and perhaps represent better buys than most new builds, at perhaps 25% of a new boat's price. Zpretty hard to beat, if you can get past the mirage that a good buy in a boat means a cheap purchase price.
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I appreciate the input. Thank you!
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Be aware that Tartan has had some issues, and if the Tartan 3000 is one of their more recent epoxy-build hulls, you may want to avoid it. Also, if the boat is a newer one, that is supposed to have warranty coverage, getting repairs done under the warranty may be problematic.
Enough already folks!

None of the Tartan 3000 models used epoxy and production was stopped long ago...
http://www.tartanownersweb.org/model...Tartan3000.pdf

Tartan 3000

Out-of-production 30-foot monohull aft-cockpit fiberglass sloop from Tartan Yachts. Designed by Sparkman & Stevens. Formerly built in the USA. 97 produced from 1981 to 1988.
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