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The star shaped ones are impact cracks—and as such probably not as big a concern as the parallel lines which are stress cracks caused by the laminate flexing.
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The cost of a survey would be more than the boat so that's not happening.
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A survey for a simple boat is about $10-15/foot. Are you getting this boat for less than $400 ?? If so, go ahead and buy it and don't worry about the crazing in the liner. But do expect other problems on a boat that is being sold to you for less than 1/10 the normal market value.

Long-time members probably can't begin to count the number of times folks have come on here after the fact grousing about problems on boats that they purchased without surveying. So, caveat emptor.

If you are truly getting the boat at a giveaway price, then it's a judgement call on your part whether to have it surveyed. Clearly the owner giving it away is not going to remedy any defects, but the survey would still have value because it might save you from taking over someone else's expensive problem child. This could save you a lot of money in the long run.

If you go forward with the purchase anyway, the survey would at least give you a road map of suggested problems and remedies.
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John gives good advice. Who knows, in this market you may be able to talk a good surveyor down in price a little. Be really flexible in your schedule, be courteous, choose one that doesn't have to travel far at all, and make it worth his while.
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Yes it is literally a giveaway. The owner has passed away and the family just wants to see it gone. It has sat floating at a dock for several years with minimal attention. A friend just paid $500 to have his old beyond repair boat disposed of and other quotes were 2 to 3 time that. I don't want to be there anytime soon. Also don't really like the idea of taking on water through the hull.
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Well, if you can accept the risk of potential major problems, then it's your call.

If I were in your place, I would go ahead and get the survey and plan to use it as a repair/remedy roadmap (you may need one for insurance regardless). In which case, I suppose it doesn't really matter whether you have the survey done before or after you take possession, but why not do it ahead, just in case?

Even with the cost of the survey, you'll still be getting this boat for a steal.

Here's hoping it works out well for you. Post more photos when you have the chance!
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I suppose your right John, there is a lot of value i just knowing what needs to be done. Work is slow and the budget is tight but when a real deal comes along... and $500- $600 instead of a survey can sure help with new running rigging as I wouldn't even try to keep my pants up with the sun rotted stuff on deck. Thanks again John at this price I'm sure I could sell it for a profit just as salvage items alone.
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I would highly recommend that you read the Boat Inspection Trip Tips thread that I started if you're not going to get the boat surveyed. That will help you determine whether getting the boat is a good idea or not.
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Thanks SD, I read them when I decided I wanted a boat. Good info that everyone looking to buy should use. Can save an inspection fee by pre-screening the obvious deal breakers before money starts changing hands.
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Can you see the backsides of the panels with the cracks? If so look for anything out of the ordinary.

Since the areas you show are storage and high traffic areas, it would be very surprising to see them in pristine condition on a 32 year old unrestored boat. Anchors, food tins, tool boxes, spare parts, even stuffing soft goods into the locker all have potential to produce those stars in the storage areas, also pretty normal to see stress cracks along an edge as shown in the sole pic.

None of those look like anything -I- would be overly concerned with.

Bounce around on the sole, and press against the walls in the storage areas while watching for any movement that shouldn't be there.

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Thanks SD, I read them when I decided I wanted a boat. Good info that everyone looking to buy should use. Can save an inspection fee by pre-screening the obvious deal breakers before money starts changing hands.
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