Farymann fresh water cooled diesel?

[scove]

Has anyone had any experience with these? What about fresh water cooling systems in general?

Thx.

[djodenda]

scove:

I've worked on a Farymann diesel.. Hard to get parts for, but I was able to do so back in the pre-Internet days, and may be able to help you out.

Eventually, in salt water, a fresh-water cooled diesel will eat itself up. It's a decision as to whether it's best to replace the engine, or install a heat exchanger.

Not to be argumentative, but are you sure you're not referring to a Petter diesel, and not a Farymann on you Catalina 27? My similar vintage C27 had the Petter.

David

[scove]

Originally Posted by djodenda

scove:

I've worked on a Farymann diesel.. Hard to get parts for, but I was able to do so back in the pre-Internet days, and may be able to help you out.

Eventually, in salt water, a fresh-water cooled diesel will eat itself up. It's a decision as to whether it's best to replace the engine, or install a heat exchanger.

Thanks. Do you know which is easier to maintain/prevent? I've only worked with outboards.

Originally Posted by djodenda

Not to be argumentative, but are you sure you're not referring to a Petter diesel, and not a Farymann on you Catalina 27? My similar vintage C27 had the Petter.

David

No problem. This engine isn't on my boat. I just have a basic 15hp 2 stroke ob.

[djodenda]

Well..

For sure, I'd rather work on a freshwater cooled diesel. Although they are more complicated, the parts that are exposed to saltwater (pump, heat exchanger) are much easier to remove/clean/replace.

Personally, and this is just my personal opinion, If I was looking to buy, I wouldn't purchase a boat with a raw-water cooled engine if it had been stored in salt water. Just too much risk of major damage to the head due to corrosion.

David

[DavidWhitney]

I have an A30, saltwater cooled, that is 35 yrs. old and still going. I would not pay a lot for a boat with one in it, however. You really should repower, if you don't know the history of the engine. I am probably living on borrowed time..

[scove]

Originally Posted by djodenda

Well..

For sure, I'd rather work on a freshwater cooled diesel. Although they are more complicated, the parts that are exposed to saltwater (pump, heat exchanger) are much easier to remove/clean/replace.

I had read on some other board that the Farymann pumps were not user serviceable. What was your experience.

Originally Posted by djodenda

Personally, and this is just my personal opinion, If I was looking to buy, I wouldn't purchase a boat with a raw-water cooled engine if it had been stored in salt water. Just too much risk of major damage to the head due to corrosion.

David

Do you still have a Farymann? If not, what kind of engine do you have now?

thx!!

[djodenda]

scove:

Sorry, I don't recall what model Farymann it was. The engine was a "V" configuration, as I recall. I think it was an S30 or an R30.

The engine was on my father's boat, a Downeaster 38. The engine took him about 1/2 the way on his circumnavigation. I helped him with his engine, primarily by acquiring a spare engine, which I gradually cannibalized and sent to him.

Eventually, he removed the engines, and replaced it, with a Perkins, I believe.

The parts source I used was in the Pacific NW, and I could dig through my old records and see if I can get a name, if you wish.

I eventually replaced the Petter diesel on my Catalina 27 with a Universal 2M12.

My present boat has a Universal M25.

David

[langianeseli]

The 1975 sailboat I am looking at has a raw-water cooled original farymann diesel - should I look at this as a big liability and deduct for this? I know diesels are usually a plus; however, being that its german motor makes me a little worried.

[deniseO30]

One of the guys in YC has a boat with a Farymann Diesel in it. Exhaust manifold rotted out, head gasket went. He's still not in the water.