Brokers

welch · #1 (**permalink**) 10-15-2002

Looking for brokers who deal only/mainly with sailing vessels already outfitted for cruising. So far I have only found www.bajayachts.com. Does anyone know of others? Dave

Lahr · #2 (**permalink**) 10-15-2002

In Annapolis, your short list should include Todd Duff at Martin Bird & Associates. He knows this area well. Jack

Jeff_H · #3 (**permalink**) 10-15-2002

Add Pat Lane at Annapolis Yacht Sales to your list of excellent brokers in Annapolis.

Jeff

welch · #4 (**permalink**) 10-15-2002

Thanks for the help. Actually I''m looking more of the area in southeast US or Florida.
Dave.

kddmhc · #5 (**permalink**) 10-16-2002

The Hull Company in Charleston, SC, www.thehullcompany.com are dealers for Catalina, Bavaria, and Island Packets. They also have a good selection of brokered boats. We just bought our first boat, a 1985 Catalina 30 from them. It was the most pleasurable buying experience I have ever had. Glen Appelbaum was the broker, and you would have thought I was purchasing an brand new IP the way I was treated.
Good Luck!
Keith

rjwright · #6 (**permalink**) 10-20-2002

If you spend any time on the Cruising World Bulletin Board, you would know that Bernie is a very highly regarded broker of cruising boats. He would be my first choice, based on my second hand info, but others with first hand experience seem exceptionally pleased with the guy...

http://www.yachtworld.com/roguewave/

Depending on your budget, he is trying to sell his personal Valiant 40 and it is *really* equipped

In any event, this is the guy you are looking for

Randy

welch · #7 (**permalink**) 10-23-2002

Thanks for the help. Dave

JohnDrake · #8 (**permalink**) 10-28-2002

I don''t want to be critical of anyone but I have to say that my dealings with Bernie, though cursory, did not leave me with a good impression. First and foremost, if you are not going to spend significant bucks, he is not very interested. And, I felt his first inclination was to simply push whatever listing he had that he wanted to get rid of.

When I first contacted Bernie about a potential livaboard and bluewater cruiser (38-40 ft, under 100k), he tried to sell me a Crealock 34. Certainly a good boat but absolutely TINY for what I was looking for and way above my stated budget. The asking for that boat could have purchased quite a few much nicer yachts.

The next time I dealt with Bernie, he tried to push his Jeanneau 40 listing on me. He said the boat was in sail away condition and had all the bells and whistles. It also was asking top dollar at the time. I saw this boat sometime later. It was in terrible condition, crapped out, had a European electrical system and basically worthless. It sold well over a year or two later for less than half what he wanted to sell it to me for.

Of course you would say he is just doing his job, promoting his clients boats and acting on their behalf. Thats fine. Being a free market, you can chose to work with whomever you like. When I finally settled on a broker to work with, he was completely honest about the boats his firm had listed, and what he felt the bottom line was.

I also have to say that I also find Bernie''s posts on CWBB a little disingenuine. I am sure he has an interest in the topics but his posts press his commercial interest and promote his business.

I am sure there are many folks happy with his represetation. And many who like him a lot. To be fair, my dealings with him were only by phone. But that was enough for me.

Just my $0.02.

manateee_gene · #9 (**permalink**) 10-28-2002

Senor Drake:
I contacted Bernie about selling our beloved Teacher''s Pet III after he bragged about selling 5 of Sam Morse''s boats. He was going to get back to me with a listing form and etc.
never heard from him again. TPIII would put any Morse boat to shame in loivability,sailing ability and in gear it would not even be close. I was asking $37,500 and Bernie had the nerve to ask me what was wrong with her. I didn''t waste my time to reply
Gene S/V Teacher''s Pet III

manateee_gene · #10 (**permalink**) 10-28-2002

Senor Drake:
I contacted Bernie about selling our beloved Teacher''s Pet III after he bragged about selling 5 of Sam Morse''s boats. He was going to get back to me with a listing form and etc.
never heard from him again. TPIII would put any Morse boat to shame in loivability,sailing ability and in gear it would not even be close. I was asking $37,500 and Bernie had the nerve to ask me what was wrong with her. I didn''t waste my time to reply
Gene S/V Teacher''s Pet III