First Boat - SailNet Community

   Search Sailnet:

 forums  store  


Quick Menu
Forums           
Articles          
Galleries        
Boat Reviews  
Classifieds     
Search SailNet 
Boat Search (new)

Shop the
SailNet Store
Anchor Locker
Boatbuilding & Repair
Charts
Clothing
Electrical
Electronics
Engine
Hatches and Portlights
Interior And Galley
Maintenance
Marine Electronics
Navigation
Other Items
Plumbing and Pumps
Rigging
Safety
Sailing Hardware
Trailer & Watersports
Clearance Items

Advertise Here






Go Back   SailNet Community > On Board > Boat Review and Purchase Forum
 Not a Member? 


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 03-12-2009
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 4
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 0
Arque is on a distinguished road
Thumbs up First Boat

Hello everyone, I have just retired and now have the time to fulfill my dream of owning a yacht.

Could anyone advise me of a good first boat: The main requirement is something I can cruise down canals as I live in Amsterdam and use on open water, other than that, well built, ease of use, plenty of room in the cabin and a foredeck with space to relax,sunbath etc.

I have been looking at Moody 28-30?

All comments appreciated.

Best Regards,
Robert.
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #2  
Old 03-12-2009
sailingdog's Avatar
Telstar 28
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: New England
Posts: 43,291
Thanks: 0
Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts
Rep Power: 13
sailingdog is just really nice sailingdog is just really nice sailingdog is just really nice sailingdog is just really nice sailingdog is just really nice
How deep are the canals, and what is the air clearance on the bridges over it. Most sailboats are fairly ill-suited to canal cruising due to their deeper draft and high-air draft requirements.
__________________
Sailingdog

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Telstar 28
New England

You know what the first rule of sailing is? ...Love. You can learn all the math in the 'verse, but you take
a boat to the sea you don't love, she'll shake you off just as sure as the turning of the worlds. Love keeps
her going when she oughta fall down, tells you she's hurting 'fore she keens. Makes her a home.

—Cpt. Mal Reynolds, Serenity (edited)

If you're new to the Sailnet Forums... please read this
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
.

Still—DON'T READ THAT POST AGAIN.
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #3  
Old 03-12-2009
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 4
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 0
Arque is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by sailingdog View Post
How deep are the canals, and what is the air clearance on the bridges over it. Most sailboats are fairly ill-suited to canal cruising due to their deeper draft and high-air draft requirements.
Thanks Sailingdog for my first reply, Theirs no problem with the draft the canals are deep here but, I need a boat where I could collapse the rigging if possible. If all of the above is too much of a hinderance. We are very close to open water as you know so, could moor it very easily.

My budget is 20,000 euros max.
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #4  
Old 03-12-2009
blt2ski's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 6,684
Thanks: 0
Thanked 20 Times in 19 Posts
Rep Power: 10
blt2ski will become famous soon enough
Not to argue with SD, BUT< from reading the Jeanneau owners forum, it seems that Europeans that live near canals as you seem to, have figured out some ingenious ways of making masts easily drop able, or pivot at a spot just above/below the boom. I would NOT if I lived near you worry about how to get under the non working bridges as much, as finding a boat that you can find parts for locally, will sail to your specs etc.

Granted this is a 20' boat, but an example of things being done in the canals of Europe
Sun 2000 Mast Lowering Kit

Good luck
Marty
__________________
She drives me boat,
I drives me dinghy!
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #5  
Old 03-12-2009
blt2ski's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 6,684
Thanks: 0
Thanked 20 Times in 19 Posts
Rep Power: 10
blt2ski will become famous soon enough
A Year In Paradise: Sailing the US East Coast, Cleveland to the Keys

Here is another link to some info, altho you may have to buy a book to figure out how theses folks cruised here in NA up and down a few canals with the mast off.

I'm not finding the article on a boat(s) with pivoting masts. Kinda of bugging me. What you want to do is doable. Jut need to find the articles. Some other sites, like Cruising world, a US magazine, yachting World out of the UK may have some online articles with some how to's of building/making pivoting masts.

marty
__________________
She drives me boat,
I drives me dinghy!
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #6  
Old 03-12-2009
Faster's Avatar
Just another Moderator
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: New Westminster, BC
Posts: 14,625
Thanks: 68
Thanked 187 Times in 179 Posts
Rep Power: 10
Faster has a spectacular aura about Faster has a spectacular aura about Faster has a spectacular aura about
Many bridges in the Netherlands open, but also many of the yachts there have tabernacle mast steps to facilitate lowering the rigs. In England somewhere there's an annual "3 rivers Race" where the competitors must repeatedly lower the rigs to clear bridges, drifting, sculling or poling through, and rehoist the rig and carry on. So Europeans are accustomed to this sort of thing.

I would expect that there are many boats for sale in your area where lowering the mast has been dealt with. At the same time there's lots of open water too, so not every boat is so equipped (as I'm sure you know already)
__________________
Ron

1984 Fast/Nicholson 345 "FastForward"

".. there is much you could do at sea with common sense.. and very little you could do without it.."
Capt G E Ericson (from "The Cruel Sea" by Nicholas Monsarrat)
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #7  
Old 03-12-2009
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 4
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 0
Arque is on a distinguished road
Thanks for the replies: I am narrowing down my list of boats which fit my needs and I am very attracted to the Kelt 850. I just spoke to a broker who has one. He said what most people do is detach the mast as it is fitted to the deck and transport it. That would be a solution as, my first trip would be down the canals through France to the Med, before tackling The Bay of Biscay.

Last edited by Arque; 03-12-2009 at 01:04 PM. Reason: spelling
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

 
Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may post attachments
You may edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Modern Hull forms and Motion Comfort Jeff_H Sailboat Design and Construction 193 10-31-2013 09:29 AM
Naming and Renaming Your Boat Sue & Larry Cruising Articles 0 12-15-2003 07:00 PM
Fine-Tuning the Autopilot, Part Two Dan Neri Gear and Maintenance Articles 0 10-13-2003 08:00 PM
Performing in Light Air Brian Hancock Learning to Sail Articles 0 01-15-2003 07:00 PM
The Balance of Hull and Sails Steve Colgate Learning to Sail Articles 0 05-25-2000 08:00 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:06 AM.

Add to My Yahoo!         
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
SEO by vBSEO 3.6.1
(c) Marine.com LLC 2000-2012

The SailNet.com store is owned and operated by a company independent of the SailNet.com forum. You are now leaving the SailNet forum. Click OK to continue or Cancel to return to the SailNet forum.