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The Soling would be another good choice.

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Two boats immediately spring to mind.
The other is the Alerion express 28. Many of the same attributes as the Quickstep, but with a bump in performance, size and in price.
Alerions are more recent and used boats go in the $60k-$80k range
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I would second the Sonar. It is a good bit more user-friendly than the Soling. It has a cuddy, comfortable contoured seats, and is raced without having to resort to extreme hiking. If you are going into that size range, a used J/24 might be less expensive than a Sonar, and extend your cruising range considerably too. The question is whether a keelboat like these will work for you.
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Thanks for the useful replies. Good suggestions about boats I haven't noticed yet. I also found today that a Ranger 20 or 22 might work and there seems to be more of them than Chrysler 20s. Anything with a keel and a handicap is OK for the local beercan races I'd be interested in. Only one design keelboat action near me is J/24 and Catalina 22.

Will be paying cash for this boat. Dream boat right now is something like e33 or one of the Aelerons, but I want to try a trailerable first. I want to have the option of taking my boat to the Texas coast, without a hauler and an oversize permit.

Others in our family have power boats and routinely take 6-10 people out for a ride and swim. I have been thinking about sailing with a bigger group than most seem to be able to accomodate with small sailboats. Or, do you ask some guests to go forward on deck? Railmeat, anyone?

Maybe a non-cabin option is two Buccaneer 18's and we can race each other!
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Thanks for the useful replies. Good suggestions about boats I haven't noticed yet. I also found today that a Ranger 20 or 22 might work and there seems to be more of them than Chrysler 20s. Anything with a keel and a handicap is OK for the local beercan races I'd be interested in. Only one design keelboat action near me is J/24 and Catalina 22.

Will be paying cash for this boat. Dream boat right now is something like e33 or one of the Aelerons, but I want to try a trailerable first. I want to have the option of taking my boat to the Texas coast, without a hauler and an oversize permit.

Others in our family have power boats and routinely take 6-10 people out for a ride and swim. I have been thinking about sailing with a bigger group than most seem to be able to accomodate with small sailboats. Or, do you ask some guests to go forward on deck? Railmeat, anyone?

Maybe a non-cabin option is two Buccaneer 18's and we can race each other!
Six is a lot on any sailboat under 32', unless it's a racing crew with (as you say) plenty rail meat. It's hard to stow that many abovedecks comfortably without people trodding on lines or sitting on the low side.

Funnily, Chrysler claimed the Bucc18 fits six adults. Ummmm... no. The darn thing has 7" of freeboard to start with, it's tender as hell, and I can't imagine the terror of sailing with six in any wind strong enuf to move that many passengers. And you DON'T want to be on the foredeck of that boat, ever. On the plus side, you could buy a matched pair for the price of a 32-footer's genoa.


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if you throw out the racing and trailering look at a hunter 27 1975 to 1983. the cockpit will seat 6 easily, it has a head and a huge saloon.

if you want racing i dont know anything about it.

i dont know much bout the hunter 25 of the same era but it might be worth a look.

here is one just to show the looks and size, it is trailerable. but i dont know about the racing part. the cheribini designed boats are very solid1982 HUNTER HUNTER 25 sailboat for sale in Georgia
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Doesn't completely meet your criteria but I bought this Watkins 17' on the cheap.


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Well

The trailer thing really knocks out a lot of the larger boats in your budget unless you dont mind spending and hour plus when you launch and and hour plus when your done.

I have been there and done that and it wears out pretty quick

I really cant think of any small boat that is going to do the 6 people thing without a whole lot of moving around every tack

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I've seen 6 in a Flying Scot.

Seems like 4 should be max though...
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You should add the Oday Tempest to your list. A 23' Rhodes design, the cockpit is very large, the cabin is small, and the lines are sweet. Finding one in good shape may be a chore, but they can be had very cheap.
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