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Buying Hughes 28?

Ok, this is a question for all the pros out there. I am looking at purchasing my first sailboat. I have narrowed it down to what I think is ideal but have a couple of questions.

What I am looking at is a Hughes 28, 1980. It has been cared for and has everything I think I need. However, when I research online I can't seem to find a Hughes 28. I can find a 26 and a 29, but no info on a 28. Does this make sense? Is there such a thing - I have seen it in person and inspected it, but of course didn't actually measure it. Why would there be no info anywhere about this?

Additionally what are your opinions about this for a first boat, and are there things particular to this boat I should look for?

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Read this:

Hughes Northstar Forum - History

and this:

Columbia Yacht Owners Association

try to determine if it is a Hughes, a Northstar, or a Hughes-Columbia.

then go back to the boat and get the HIN (Hull Identification Number). It should be etched into the fibreglass somewhere on or near the transom.

Come back here and post the HIN and you'll be able to find out when the boat was built.

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I have a Northstar 1000 which is almost identical to the Hughes 31 built after US Steel left the game. Love my boat. Sails well, keeps a good track, stiff and plays well in the waves.
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28 hughes

Ok, here is what happened. This guy, clearly a boat lover extended the stern by 36 inches when he refinished the hull above the water line making a much bigger cockpit. It is actually a 26 Hughes, however it is now 28 feet long...appears to be an excellent job, no doubt about it and in great shape.

Should this be a concern?
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28 hughes

Also, it has a refurbished/replaced Evinrude saildrive gas/oil mix 30hp detuned to 15hp with 4hours of use on it. I have read crazy stories of hatred and disdain for saildrives, but am lost on this one? Why is this good or bad?
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I think we need some pictures.
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Is this the Hughes that is lying at Port Dover?
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Wanted to post a photo, but not able to ...too big apparently? Anyway it is not in Port Dover...it is in ottawa
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When I read of all of these modifications to the boat and motor they make me nervous. Here is why...

Unless there is something spectacular and unique about the Hughes model that was extended, then I think that the reason it was extended was because the owner wanted a bigger boat but could not afford to buy one. Therefore, he/she reasoned it would be cheaper to extend the current vesel.


Doing something like extending a boat by three feet is major structural work. It's a project that needs a lot of time and space, not to mention money. Any bonds between old and new fibreglass/epoxy are going to be suspect. The strength of a secondary bond rarely approaches the strength of primary ones. If the individual who extended the boat had done it properly, it would have cost many thousands of dollars, and would have been much more expensive an exercise than buying a longer boat to begin with.

Even when they are properly done, changes of that type rarely result in a craft that is balanced. The center of gravity is no longer where the sail plan's center of effort needs it to be. The result is a boat that will not sail well, and may even be unsafe.

Ditto for the motor. There is a lot of bad feeling out there for saildrives - some of it deserved and some not so deserved. What can be safely assumed though, is that the likelihood of an engine being a problem increase with each non-standard modification made to it. I believe that the Hughes 26's were sold with OMC Saildrives and that the OMC (Evinrude) is the brand that hs generated the most negative emotion. You first clue is that it has four hours on it. I am sure the vendor is hoping that it runs for another four or so until he an offload the craft.

If you are being seduced by a low, low price for a 28 foot boat - shake your head. This is not a 28 foot boat. This is a disabled 26 footer - someone's make work project.

If you want a good deal on a 28 foot boat, look in Michigan. It is a simple matter to get the boat up to Ontario, and you will get far, far more for your money there right now than you will anywhere in Canada.

Don't mean to burst your bubble but the vendor is not selling a "Hughes 28". They are trying to salvage some dollars from an expensive mistake.

Good Luck !

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