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Old 05-04-2009
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Haul Out, Survey and Sea Trial t-minus 43 hours!

The surveyor gave us a thumbs up on the initial inspection so now we are on to haul out survey and sea trial on Wednesday. Barring any problems with delamination, severe blisters, engine issues or the keel, this should be our last go round in the hunt for our boat.

We may need to replace the standing rigging which is not something we had planned on. Have to figure out a ballpark cost to do this so we can adequately prepare for the partial refit we have planned. This might mean that aesthetic issues I would prefer to have addressed have to wait but what can you do? We love this little boat and the heart has reasons the mind can not comprehend.

I will be bitterly, bitterly disappointed if this one doesn't work. Every other boat has been either something the ARE likes and I didn't or vice versa. This one hits the sweet spot for both of us...fingers crossed here and I am spitting like mad!
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Good luck. Fingers crossed!
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Keeping my fingers crossed for you and the ARE... Good luck...

PS. Spit downwind...
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from what i have seen if you get a rigger to make each shroud or stay with a swag fitting on one end, and a staylock or what what ever swagless you want on the bottom end, then install them yourself you are looking at an average of 100 per wire for a 27 footer. basicly it means you will be going up the mast 4 or 5 times thou.

basicly, you go up the mast, remove the back stay, attach the new one, come down cut it to length and attach. go back up do the fore stay the same way. go back up do the shrouds etc etc. make sure you support the mast with a halyard while you remove each one. this might take you 2 days unless you can get up the mast with out tiring you or the wincher running you up.

another option is to rent a cherry picker, then doing them in one day is easy, because you can now do 2 each trip up because there is no person swinging around up there. if you do the cherry picker method try talking to others at the marina, you might get them to pay some of the price for things like anchor light bulb change outs
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Umm... I think you're confused or posting in the wrong thread... Mimsy and her ARE are looking at a 42' boat IIRC, a Tattosh 42.

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from what i have seen if you get a rigger to make each shroud or stay with a swag fitting on one end, and a staylock or what what ever swagless you want on the bottom end, then install them yourself you are looking at an average of 100 per wire for a 27 footer. basicly it means you will be going up the mast 4 or 5 times thou.

basicly, you go up the mast, remove the back stay, attach the new one, come down cut it to length and attach. go back up do the fore stay the same way. go back up do the shrouds etc etc. make sure you support the mast with a halyard while you remove each one. this might take you 2 days unless you can get up the mast with out tiring you or the wincher running you up.

another option is to rent a cherry picker, then doing them in one day is easy, because you can now do 2 each trip up because there is no person swinging around up there. if you do the cherry picker method try talking to others at the marina, you might get them to pay some of the price for things like anchor light bulb change outs
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i was not sure what size boat or even what boat. but she said they needed a ballpark idea of rigging price, so i gave what i knew, with the qualifications of stating the 27 footer.
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Thanks Scotty, that is helpful. Since we are new to this boat and the ARE hasn't rigged before we are planning on finding a great rigger and taking it on the chin. We are specifically looking for one who will be comfortable with us watching and asking lots of questions.

The ARE has a knack for figuring out just about anything on the fly once he has an idea of what is the correct procedure. Its worth the cost to us to not only get the rigging done properly but to get the education as well.
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ahh... that makes sense. It'll be a bit more for 42' boat though.

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I'd recommend getting a copy of Brion Toss's The Complete Rigger's Apprentice... good book for the ARE to dig through.

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Goodluck with the survey and I will keep my fingers crossed for you. I know how it feels as I don't think I slept the night before my survey fearing the surveyor would find some crazy problem hidden from the untrained eye!

Let us know how it goes and goodluck!
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OK; why not negotiate the value of the boat because it needs a re-rig? Then YOU won't take it on the chin, the seller will (and should). If the negotiated price is way below market to begin with then forget what I just said; but generally the asking price has not accounted for the need to re-rig.
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