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The biggest expense is getting the tiller head, that allows you to attach a tiller to the rudder stock. Without knowing what the design of it is, it is hard to say. Contacting the Cape Dory owner's association would probably be a good start, since they may know of a source for the tiller head. The tiller itself isn't too expensive.

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Thank you, that is very useful information.
I definitely dont wanna have to stand up, so at least I need to remount the compass, e.g. aside the seacock, which I think is the best place to have.
How much do you think it would cost to replace the wheel with a tiller (approx.)?
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To convert a cape dory 30 to tiller steering, I would assume that the tiller cap on these boats would be from spartan marine hardware and they are $230. You can make a tiller yourself pretty cheaply if you have basic woodworking skills. If you convert a schooner style wheel, you will need a stuffing box for the rudder post since those boats didn't have them but a pedestal type will. The rudder shaft may be a bit short on the pedestal style boats, I am not sure but I bet someone on the cape dory board could help with that. Then you would need some glass, a deck fitting and some gelcoat. The big cost would really be your labor hours unless it is something you really want to do.

It would probably be much easier to buy a tiller boat to start with, there were some cape dory 30's like that and all of the 28's started that way.
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Didn't Cape Dory also build a full keel 31 footer in the mid 80s? It was beamier than the 30 with more headroom and other amenities. I'm pretty sure it was also an Alberg design. I hear very little about this vessel. Does anyone know how she compares to the 30 from a seakindly perspective?

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Didn't Cape Dory also build a full keel 31 footer in the mid 80s? It was beamier than the 30 with more headroom and other amenities. I'm pretty sure it was also an Alberg design. I hear very little about this vessel. Does anyone know how she compares to the 30 from a seakindly perspective?

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You're probably thinking of the 30MKII. This was beamier and had more room than the 31. The 30 MKII was designed by Clive Dent and was 10'6" +/- beam IIRC and the 31 by Carl Alberg and was narrower at under a 10' beam...
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Actually, there are a few CD 31s for sale on YW. They are not the 30MKII designed by Dent. They state they are designed by Alberg. I was just curious if anyone knew how the 31 compared with the 30, especially in its bluewater capabilities.

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Re: cape dory 30

My husband and I usually prefer tillers on boats, however, we are currently looking at a CD30 with a wheel and if we buy it we plan to leave it that way.

Our last boat was a CD28 with a tiller. The CD28 and CD30 have nearly identical cockpits and we found that because of the smaller size of the cockpit on these boats that the tiller sweeping across made it seem very crowded. We were always shifting our position around to accomodate the tiller.

I can't say enough about the beautiful handling of the boat though, and we had it out in some pretty snotty conditions, but it always performed in a very seakindly manner. As far as manuevering goes, the only fault we could find with it was that it didn't back worth a damn under power. Something about the design of the prop. We hear that is the case with inboard powered CDs pretty much across the board.

We've owned a variety of types of boats from Catalina's (3) and a Newport 30 on the racer/cruiser side to a Bristol, a Cabo Rico and 3 Cape Dories on the cruiser side. There is no question in our mind which type of boat we would be more comfortable going to sea on.

We have always been minimalists to some degree. We have lived on a Bristol 24 and we camp with a homebuilt teardrop. Some people may not be comfortable with the smaller space inside the Cape Dories and similar narrow full-keel designed boats, but this is the boat we are considering for our retirement cruiser.
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Re: cape dory 30

I have wrestled with the quest for an affordable, safe boat many years and the problem I have is that the same brand is not the same from year to year and then condition, upgrades all come into play.
I would not own a Catalina. They are flat bottomed and pound, (as was said). The catalina smile, A nickname for the undesirable trait it has in the pre 88's where the keel parts slightly at the entry where they used wood. A catalina is a fine boat for smooth water and most accommodating in comfort but as with Beneteaus they have no real smooth transition over a wave and the way the rudders are not supported say she's no good near coral or rocks. They do back better but the tracking for long crossings is not there.
I like but caution you about the Rawson 30' Baba 30' Willard 30' Bristol Channel Cutter 28' or the Cape Dory 29/30 but they can be good boats but there are many factors in construction and post construction like wood cores or the bunks the engine sats on that can present a challenge to fix. Chain plates, rudder shafts, bow sprits. Look at the wood where you find it. Many times I found a problem on port side was not the same on the starboard.
Go into a boat as a cynic not just looking for reasons to buy it. A boat is a temporary insanity much like marriage. Take your time. Take a week and bring in several opinions. Trust no one when buying a boat, PERIOD!!!!
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