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My intent was just to show that there are deals out there if if you take the time to look. I sail by "the crusher" regularly on my way to sea and nearly always see boats there that look a lot better than the one in question. That is what this kid is doing......looking from Japan at a boat in somebody's back yard here and asking us if he should save it from the crusher. I wouldn't..........Even after seeing the craigslist pix and talking to the owner I didn't commit to buy my boat 'till I had seriously inspected it personally................Anyway thanks for the links man- I've seen pix of Lorna Doon and would like to do the interior similarly. Thanks too for correcting me re: high/low pressure lines (all I knew was that they are new) and she is a great lil' sailer. Faster than I expected, but she does have a long LWL for a boat her size (23'+) and points very well. Still need a whisker pole for downwind. May take her to Catalina for Thanksgiving.
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Yeah, most of us would agree some boats aren't worth saving and the one that started this thread is a classic example. Happy sailing.
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I have not seen crazing like that being caused by stress. Actually, respraying gel coat is not that difficult or hard. I saw it done in a garage on a hoby cat and it turned out great. In my mind the only question in my mind would be the integrity of the hull inside the gelcoat.
Really, I would like to know how that works. Everyone I've ever talked to said that spraying all-grip was a super tricky project only done by professionals with special gear but the reason they used all-grip was that it was much easier and quicker than GellCoat.

If you have a way of doing Gellcoat that would be a better job than all-grip and easier too I would love to hear about it.
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I think regardless of whether you use Awlgrip or gelcoat you have to get rid of the crazing first and make sure the hull is fair. That's a lot of sanding.
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I think regardless of whether you use Awlgrip or gelcoat you have to get rid of the crazing first and make sure the hull is fair. That's a lot of sanding.
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In other words remove the existing gelcoat?

You could use a high build primer that would cover the cracks but they will telegraph though within a couple years. Do you agree?
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Fairing a hull is not for the novice. There are a lot of tricks to it and it takes a sensitive hand and a keen eye. Thank God for micro-spheres and a long piece of veneer. And it takes forever.
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Whatever finish you put on (as paint) will telegraph the crazing sooner or later. The surface must be smooth and stable before painting. That can mean filling and fairing or removing if it's a disaster (as in the free Vega) to get to a stable substrate. And to me it doesn't make sense to cover something up badly. The labor to do the job is a fair amount and good coatings are expensive. If it's worth saving it's worth doing properly. In my opinion at least. And I've said I don't think the Vega that started this post is worth fixing. If you follow the theory that a hull is about 15% or even 20% of a finished boat in time and labor with the work it needs you're better off to build new. It's been a while and I'm not going to reread the posts but as I recall there wasn't much else great about this boat except original design either, was there? And I really like the Vega.
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Hey Paradox-(I hope he's OK!) I got some better deals for ya. GOOGLE............. " ebay 2010 storm damage sailboat choose any boat $450.00 "....... There is a Vega-esque full keel in there for ya.
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Nothing like a Vega in that list - all fin keel boats. A couple look like they're not worth the $450.
Catalina 25
Catalina 27
Pearson 30
San Juan 23
Starwind 22
Islander 26
Newport 30
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Brian, there are 2 boats in that yard I just could not call fin keels-Craig
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