Hunter 28 really a piece of ****?
I currently have a '78 Hunter 25, and for the past two seasons it has been considered less than acceptable by the wife. Something about the cramped space. And the heat. And the lack of headroom. And the lack of a wheel.
So, time to look for something that the boss finds more acceptable. Which mostly means a double berth that doesn't end in a point. A wheel. More space. And generally a level of plushness that isn't found on very standard interior of a well aged Hunter 25.
Searching yachtworld.com the Hunter 28.5 ('84-'87) and 28 ('89-'94) seem to be reasonable boats given the livability requirements of the wife, and well, they are still sailboats... Plus they aren't outside of the budget.
Sounds good until I find the first link on google: yachtsurvey.com/boatreviews/hunter28.htm
So - are Hunter 28s really that crappy? And if so - what are other boats that can be found for under 20k that have the excessively plush Hunter style livability?
the post cherubini hunters where not the best, they did have issues. there are decent coastal and inland boats, but not blue water at all. they had resin issues, and build quality issues. but still usable for what they are.
look at the hunters before 83 and you will see a very solid boat, with known issues but what 20 something boats dont.
where are you located?
Located in West Michigan and sail on Lake Michigan out of Muskegon - so fortunately won't exactly be going for true blue water sailing.
I looked at a few of the earlier Hunters a few steps up in size from what I have now - and the wife was less than impressed :(
Thanks for your thoughts.
Lots to choose from
At 20K, and looking for more space and plush accomodations, there are a ton of 30 footers that would have a nice sized head, double berth, standing headroom and decent galley.
Off the top of my head.
Catalina 30 if you want some luxury
J30 If you want some performance.
Plenty of well built boats 28-30 ft could be hand in that price range though.
I would highly recommend a Catalina 30. Tremendous space. My situation was similar. We had a Ericson 26 that the admiral did not like. She soon lost interest in it. We looked at a Catalina 30, she feel in love with it and we are very happy with it.
Just my thoughts....
A little bigger boat
There are a large number of Ericsons on Lake Michigan as many were sold out of Larsen Marine across the lake from you in Waukegan. The 80s vintage 27, 28, and 28+ are very solid, good sailing, well-finished boats that could be had in your price range. There are quite a few on the lake. (Also a very large online owners community.) Good luck in your search for your next boat.
Trying to answer your original question.
There are 3 28's at our Iowa marina. All are very well kept, fresh water boats. I've been sailing my new to me in August of 08 and competing in Wednesday night beer can races. I replaced my headsail this spring, but sail with the 1993 original main and am able to finish in the middle of the pack against Capri 22's, Catalina 30's and 34's. I haven't had to put a lot of work into the boat. However, I wonder about the condition of the 28's that you are looking at in the $20,000 range. I paid $30,000 for mine with trailer, replaced the headsail, added adjustable Genoa tracks and a back stay adjuster.
Good luck in your search.
We started out on an '89 H28. Great little boat, a few things we didn't like but isn't there always something. The aft cabin is rather cave'ish but works well just the same, for us the biggest complaint was the floor of the head, due to it's location, the floor is not flat, so when sitting down upon the throne, your right foot is trying to find a home on a slanted surface, didn't bother me so much, wife HATED it.
The Vee-birth is comfortable enough (we used the cave as I am over 6 ft tall and the admiral was left with no foot room) and has a little screen to pull across for privacy.
We did find it a little inconvenient to crawl across the settee's to access the forward birth and the table was not of the best design, 20 years might have had something to do with that too but the fold-down sides would not produce a flat table when unfolded. Mostly little gripes, nothing that would stop me from recommending it though.
We also found Hunter service to be first rate, we required a new prop strut when we bought and I could of had one made but the nice people at Hunter had one on the shelf and I received it in a matter of days, price was reasonable too.
If I had any complaints with build quality, there always seemed to be a few more cracks thru the gel coat after spending some time on the hard.
One more thing to consider is resale value, while it is a perfectly good boat, when you choose to sell it, the prospective buyer will be reading the same articles that you are now. And listening to all of "those people" that keep harping about how bad a Hunter is. Just something to keep in mind.
The catalina 30 is a good recommendation, definitely worth looking into and they have the added bonus of a good reputation.
If you really like the layout of the 28, you may want to consider the 30. Much nicer down below, bigger aft cabin that is not so enclosed, better engine access, flat floor in the head.....
Have fun, see lots of boats, take your camera and a notepad. After a while, all the boats seem to blend in the memory, and some of the details can get lost.
Most of all don't get discouraged. When we boat our first boat, we looked at about 30 others before finding "the one". Our second search was a lot more work, easily saw over 50 boats.
We lost count of the number of boats that were "well maintained and in excellent shape" that had damaged keels/hulls/engines, broken stuff, rotted stuff.......
It can be VARY discouraging to drive for 4 hours to see your dream boat only to find out it that is might have been, 20 years ago (when the pictures were taken).
Looks like I will have to take a closer look at the Catalina 30, I had written it off early on - and it sounds like it deserves a closer look.
jjns - Really appreciate the reply, have some great stuff in there that I am going to have to consider.
defensible - I am hoping the prices I am looking at will be attached to reasonable boats, since I am looking at the mid - late 80s for the most part (28.5s) and all are cradle boats, but your point is well taken. Especially with the build concerns.
I agree that you should look at the Catalina 30. I have friends who cruise extensively on theirs all over the Great Lakes. I was surprised to see how roomy it was down below for a 30-foot boat.
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