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Hi all,

I'm new to sailing, and my family is also cosidering an Edel 665 as well that has come available locally. I have scoured the net and could find very little on these in terms of reviews. We are looking to do coastal cruising around Cape Breton Island, Nova Scotia, weekending, possibly some racing for fun. Any thoughts on the Edel 665 in terms of safety, stability, construction and value retention?
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I can't find much info on the EDEL 665 in English on the web. I know they were made in France and Canada. How do they sail? How many people could comfortably go out for weekend cruise? Are they fast, stable...
I am looking at buying one as a first sail boat and any info would be appreciated.
Hello, I have an Edel 4 - the same as you are looking for I think?
It is a pretty roomy boat for the size, won't plane to windward, but pretty good off the wind. Sailed mine from Cean to La Rochelle - Alderney Race, Channel de Four and Raz de Siene - pretty comfy in wobbly water and a lot drier than some bigger boats in the races - didn't get much green water at all!
A good solid first boat, pretty forgiving and not too serious if you run out of water - with the stub keel and lifting plate. Done a few jobs on mine and impressed by the build quality - GO FOR IT!
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Re: Looking for info on EDEL 665

I figured I would try to revive this old thread in the hopes of stirring up more information.

I am wondering about this boat as a trailerable fixed keel family cruiser that I can haul behind my V6 Santa Fe. There seem to be quite a few in my area, which makes sense, because the first Canadian run was built in Montreal.

The layout I get, I'm wondering how the boat sails. Usage would be cautious coastal cruising on the Gulf of St Lawrence, Great Lakes, as well as sheltered water. From what I painstakingly read in original French literature, they were originally marketed as a Coastal Cruiser and over 1500 of them were built in France, so they must have had some positive qualities.

They are an interesting layout below with 5' of headroom, a head and a small galley, which is not bad for a 21 1/2 foot boat. They are a reasonable draft and weight for towing.

What I can't get a sense for is their sailing performance. I did some PHRF searches and it's clear they were not a racing boat, as there is pretty well nothing. I did find one in BC with a 274. At first I almost laughed, but then when I searched other displacement hull, non racing 21 1/2 footers, it could be worse, plus, I have no idea if that is even an accurate figure as I only found one reference to it in an old PDF file.

I get it, that 5' of headroom, light displacement and shallow keel are going to come at a price, but, performance is not primarygoal. I am wondering if this boat would be a frustrating and infuriating boat to sail to windward though.

Has anybody sailed one of these things upwind?

Some of them appear to have been very well taken care of with some nice upgrades.

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I figured I would try to revive this old thread in the hopes of stirring up more information.

I am wondering about this boat as a trailerable fixed keel family cruiser that I can haul behind my V6 Santa Fe. There seem to be quite a few in my area, which makes sense, because the first Canadian run was built in Montreal.

The layout I get, I'm wondering how the boat sails. Usage would be cautious coastal cruising on the Gulf of St Lawrence, Great Lakes, as well as sheltered water. From what I painstakingly read in original French literature, they were originally marketed as a Coastal Cruiser and over 1500 of them were built in France, so they must have had some positive qualities.

They are an interesting layout below with 5' of headroom, a head and a small galley, which is not bad for a 21 1/2 foot boat. They are a reasonable draft and weight for towing.

What I can't get a sense for is their sailing performance. I did some PHRF searches and it's clear they were not a racing boat, as there is pretty well nothing. I did find one in BC with a 274. At first I almost laughed, but then when I searched other displacement hull, non racing 21 1/2 footers, it could be worse, plus, I have no idea if that is even an accurate figure as I only found one reference to it in an old PDF file.

I get it, that 5' of headroom, light displacement and shallow keel are going to come at a price, but, performance is not primarygoal. I am wondering if this boat would be a frustrating and infuriating boat to sail to windward though.

Has anybody sailed one of these things upwind?

Some of them appear to have been very well taken care of with some nice upgrades.
Hi, if you go back and read my post on this thread you will understand that the Edel665 weight is 2406 lbs. Add the trailer weight (my trailer is a pig at 1090 pounds) and you eill be towing at about 3600 to 3700 pounds. Your vehicle should have towing capicity in the owners manual. My 96 Dodge Dakota does not have a problem towing my 665.

But I have had no time to sail it since I baught it. I have discovered on my Edel665 that the mast step has three positions (looks factory). Technically the further forward the mast the higher the boat (and round up quicker) will point, but I would step the mast further aft for flying a chute or Spinniker. Maurice Edel designed the 665 for Island sailing the Mediterranean, and for off shore cruising. Incidentally Maurice Edel also designed the Helios, which is an unsinkable 50' Trimaran. All Edels ecept the 665 were manufactured in France. The Edel 665 (660 in France) was manufactured in Canada for three years from 1979 to 1982, with runs of 920 each year. Maurice Edel had no involvement in the Canadian production, he only licensed the brand to the Manufacturer. I have all my research on a laptop that wont boot (&#128533. After the Canadian firm in Quebec stoped production in '81, an investor baught the molds and tried a production in British Columbia, with less than 30 completed. The molds are rumored to gave been destroyed there.
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If you are considering a sailing vessel of this size, you could'nt go wrong. It (my opine) is more comfortable than the Catalina or O'Day of the same size, and looks better😉 Just be honest with your entry weight if you race, lol.

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Re: Looking for info on EDEL 665

Ya, probably a bit heavy for my SUV (3500 lb tow rating).

I've watched some videos on YouTube of them sailing some pretty open water on the med and the east coast of France in some fairly rough stuff. They look like decent sea boats, but hard to tell much from a short video clip.

I know there were some Edel 820's made in Canada too, because I looked at one. It was a fairly nice boat.

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Ya, probably a bit heavy for my SUV (3500 lb tow rating).

I've watched some videos on YouTube of them sailing some pretty open water on the med and the east coast of France in some fairly rough stuff. They look like decent sea boats, but hard to tell much from a short video clip.

I know there were some Edel 820's made in Canada too, because I looked at one. It was a fairly nice boat.
Most single axle trailers do not weigh mor than 600-700 lbs.
And you may be right about the 820's being made in Canada to. My memory was foggy (been 8 years scince I did the research) when I posted this recent reply. The 540 was also ptoduced in Canada. And I also recall some Special 665's that had 2 feet more mast height.

There is also a Yahoo groups for the Edel boats. Lots of picts and project info there.

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