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Dock Prep for New Sailboat

Was hoping someone could point me in the right direction. Could someone highlight the main work items that need to be considered when ensuring that a dock is ready to host a boat?

My in-laws have a dock on a canal in Ft. Lauderdale but it will need some work before it's ready for a larger boat 35-45ft.

Currently I see the below list of items:

- Dredge for the keel
- Install power
- Install water
- Ensure pillars are properly secured in case of bad weather

Can anyone add to this? I'm trying to estimate the total cost of dock prep.

Thanks,

Gene
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First thing I'd check is whether you can get the boat in the canal, not just the depth at the dock. Also in many places you have to jump through a hundred bureaucratic hoops to get permission to dredge.
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Vasco's point about the waterways leading to the dock area is a very valid one. If the water isn't deep enough to move the boat except at high tide, it will be very inconvenient to store the boat there.
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Clarification

I guess I should have qualified the size of the canal a bit more.

There are already boats at nearly every house on either side of the canal. It's about 80 ft wide, their dock is about 1/4 mile from the ICW and about 2 miles from the Hillsboro Inlet.

My goal is to develop a worklist and cost estimate to make the dock "sailboat" ready. Currently there is only a little 17ft Wahoo.

Looking for any advice on regulations, simple sailboat niceties, and standard dock necessities.

I've been working on my initial list while I'll post in a couple of days so, worse case, hopefully you guys can poke holes or add to my plan.

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Gene

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I guess I should have qualified the size of the canal a bit more.

There are already boats at nearly every house on either side of the canal. It's about 80 ft wide, their dock is about 1/4 mile from the ICW and about 2 miles from the Hillsboro Inlet.

What kind of boats? Many canals are wide but the problem is the depth. I kept my boat on a private dock on a canal in Lauderdale-by-the-sea once. At low tide I was on the bottom, 5'03" draft. Everybody used to tear by on the ICW and their wakes would come into the canal and bounce me off the bottom. After a week I moved to Hollywood marina.
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The ICW is a "no wake" zone where the canal begins so I don't think wake will be too much of a concern. There is a FP35 (Width) 5 houses up the canal and a Catalina 375 (Depth) right next door.

The depth right off of the dock is currently 4' - 4'6" at low tide so some dredge work will be required if we end up getting a keeled boat. The city keeps the center of the canals at a certain depth. I'm getting those details later today.

In the end, our boat decision will have to take the dock's limits into account.

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The city keeps the center of the canals at a certain depth.
Ummm they are supposed to but guess what big ticket item might get delayed if the city is in a cash flow bind.

I looked at a couple of boats that were for sale on the west coast of Florida and the given reason was that they no longer had enough water to get to and from their dock except at a spring high. No dredging!

Find someone else on the same stretch of water with a similar draft and get the real skinny.
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Don't forget to make sure your cleats are correctly spaced and secured. Also remove all of those nasty nails or spikes that always seem to grow out of the pilings.
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Your biggest problem may be getting a permit to dredge. Not an esay task in FL.
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Go to Sailorman and buy some of the dock/piling bumpers by the foot. I lined my 3 pilings with 5 ft each and it cost me $50 for the stuff and a few bucks more for stainless screws/washers. I then lined the horizontal dock spaces between the pilings with more rubber fender material, just in case the bow came in a bit tight and nicked it.

It beats leaving fenders out all the time which get eaten up by the florida sun and the constant friction.

BOW and West Marine carry the same stuff but at nearly 5x the cost.

BTW, make sure to check the pilings at really low tide...a lot of pilings are eaten away below the waterline and barely freestanding. If thats the case, people have taken those 12" diameter concrete footer paper tubes, slit them in half, put them around their pilings and poured concrete into them from the base of the piling up to the footer tubes end. Basically it encases the piling in concrete and provides a good 10-20 year fix....but you do have to look at the ugly footer paper tube slowly deteriorate over time. Beats a new piling which runs about $2000 per in FLL
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