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I'd like to add that the original post mentioned "IOR like" boats, by which I meant boats designed in the spirit of the rule. Namely, reasonably safe for cruising but also with good enough performance to make buoy racing fun.

Certainly there were plenty of IOR specific rule-beaters that finished well but were never what the people who wrote the rules had in mind. I've raced on many of these designs on inland waters but would never consider taking one out to sea.

The Wauquiez Pretorien, Islander 36 and Cal 39 are my current favorites. Are there any other boats not yet mentioned that come close to these?
If you like the Pretorian, look at a Centurion (several sizes) or a Hood 38 which are also by Wauquiez.
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The Pacific coast really favors boats that have good reaching and running performance. It is an area where you should have a very wide choice of really nice very performance boats that cost less than your $100,000 budget and which do not have the miserable sailing characteristics of an IOR design. During the IOR period, there were a wide range of Pacific Rim designers who produced well rounded performance cruisers; designers like Olsen, Davidson. Lee, Spencer, Shumacker, Ross, Farr, Elliot, Wylie, Moore and so on. These boats sell at similar prices to IOR boats of that era but they were generally faster and easier to handle and much better suited to typical west coast conditions than IOR optimized designs.

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Thanks to everyone who has contributed information. I will continue looking. The Scanmars do look quite nice. And much less expensive than some others I've been looking at.

Any specific designs associated with those designers you mentioned, Jeff?

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Don't know about the IOR influence but I have looked towards the Sabre 362, Wauquiez Pretorien 35, Saga 35, Cascade 36, and my top three list:Wauquiez Hood 38, Gozzard 36, and my all time favorite the Fast Passage 39.
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Here's a link to the last Fast Passage 39 made on Yachtworld. Awesome boat, I've been on a few. Bit out of the price range though.
2000 Fast Passage ,The Last One! Sail Boat For Sale - www.yachtworld.com
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Don't know about the IOR influence but I have looked towards the Sabre 362, Wauquiez Pretorien 35, Saga 35, Cascade 36, and my top three list:Wauquiez Hood 38, Gozzard 36, and my all time favorite the Fast Passage 39.
The only design from that list that owes anything to IOR would be the Pretorien 35... some of the rest are as far away from that genre as you can get.
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Any specific designs associated with those designers you mentioned, Jeff?

-Steve
I believe he would be refering to boats such as
the Olson 40, Express 37, Wyle 39, Santa Cruz 40,
and of course Farr 38(11.6). These boats are all
in the neighborhood of 11,000 lbs, a bit lighter than
a Cal 39.
An older, but interesting boat to consider would be
the original 1971 version of the Cal 39. They did not
build many of them, but there is currently one for
sale in So Cal. I would check out Latitude 38 if you
intend to by on the West Coast.
Another good performing boat to consider would be
a J40.
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