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ABYC Ignition Protected Fuse Panels

I just bought a 1969 Morgan 34. I had a survey completed on the boat, and the surveyor said that it could be suitable as a liveaboard only after I have the AC and DC panels ignition protected.

Would installing panels correctly such as these...

"Panel Back Insulating Covers" found at West Marine (I can't post to the link due to being new to the forum)

qualify for ignition protecting the panels according to the ABYC standards? I am a pretty DIY kind of guy and am wondering if I can get around having to have an ABYC electrician come and charge me a boat load.

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ignition protected

I think there is a mix-up of terms as ignition protected parts are generaly only in the engine area and even then mostly a gasoline motor issue

ignition protected parts are factory made and pass testing which rules out DIY

I would think there talking about being able to easly touch the AC parts and get a shock
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I think exact wording from the report would help.

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I just bought a 1969 Morgan 34. I had a survey completed on the boat, and the surveyor said that it could be suitable as a liveaboard only after I have the AC and DC panels ignition protected.

Would installing panels correctly such as these...

"Panel Back Insulating Covers" found at West Marine (I can't post to the link due to being new to the forum)

qualify for ignition protecting the panels according to the ABYC standards? I am a pretty DIY kind of guy and am wondering if I can get around having to have an ABYC electrician come and charge me a boat load.

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What you have asked is very odd. Perhaps the pannel is in a compartment it should not be in. Perhaps the engine compartment is not vented properly.

There is some bit of information missing.
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The engine compartment is vented properly. The AC Panel is mounted on the forward facing engine compartment bulkhead. It is a gas atomic 4 engine.

The surveyor explained that because the panel is open to the fumes of the engine compartment... the connections on the back of the panel need to be ignition protected. I do not understand why the dc panel needed to be protected as well since it is not mounted on the engine compartment.

Does this help explain my conundrum?
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Yes

I have the same issue on my A4 Cal 29 the back of orginal DC pannel is in the engine comparment and i have to relocate or change the breakers




Blue Sea makes ignition protected DC pannels in 3,4,6 or 8 breakers the AC is gonna be a problem as they dont have and ignition protected pannel if its in the motor area




I also have to move my start key switch OR find and ignition protected one which seems NOT to be made the current wireing is such a FUBAR mess its really no big deal as the DC pannel is 200 dollars and the wiring just needs to hit the dumpster

If its in the living area and not in the motor comparment it should NOT be and issue

He took it easy on you i have to add battery fuses change a bunch of through hulls ect
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Ignition protection of electrical equipment is only required in a compartment containing a gasoline tank or gasoline engine.

ABYC "AC and DC Electrical Systems On Boats" Standard E-11, US Code of Federal Regulations Title 33 and Transport Canada TP1332E require that all electrical equipment in a compartment containing gasoline must be ignition protected and be marked accordingly as meeting the SAE J1171 External Ignition Protection of Marine Electrical Devices and/or UL1500 Ignition Protection Test for Marine Products.

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