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Expect that your operating costs will be proportionate to the length suqared and your frequency of use will be inversly proportional to length. Having said that I had a Hallberg Rassy 41 that was a heartthrob.. and still is. A good placeto look for good blue water boats is the Lauderdale area. Often boats with everything you'd need are left there to sell after europeans complete thier dream curise.
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Wow!!! What great responses. This is truly a great forum. Thanx for the insight.
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Irwin 41 comes to mind. Stillraining here has one I think. Shoal draft sloop, CC. Not sure how many, or where they are but might be worth a look. The Whitby mentioned are supposed to be very nice boats. Good luck on the search.

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To OP,

Looking at Jeanneaus, if that does intrigue you. cabins/head arraingement for these different new boats
39i 2/1 3/1
42i 2/2 3/2
44i 3/2 3/3 4/2
49i 3/2 4/4

From another Jeanneau owner that had a 42DS, his IIRC was a 4/2 arraignment, and the reality was, being as it was a former charter boat, he could do 2, 3 or 4 sleeping area's, depending upon how he setup some dividers. This style of interior may be nice with your larger family. Possibly allowing you and spouse some room, along with the little one really close, older 3 elsewhere.

I would bet Beneteau, and some of the other manufactures have some similar floor plans as the Jeanneaus.

Being as walt mentioned HR's, I seem to recall them having a CC version in the past too. I know of a few with Hunters that have gone from Puget SOund where I am, down to Mexico and back. One a late 70's 37' cutter, the others fairly recent, last 10 yr builds, 45-55' models. I would also swag, that most any boat from 40' on up is easily world sailable.

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NCountry,

Go here:
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and see if the HR 352 or 382 satisfy. Not sure your size objective, These will sleep 6 - though if it were me 100-ft would be min. These are Swedish built boats that are harder to find in the US - but worth adding to your hunting list.

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Well....if I had the ability I would go with the 100 footer but......that's the price you pay when you take in two kids to raise that aren't your own. And honestly it's not their fault that the parents were worthless and don't help at all. We're blessed to have them and to have the priviledge to show them the world.
The HR's are sweet boats and I've seen them several times. Don't know why I hadn't thought of them as we begin to get serious about the next boat.
As for size, I'm not opposed to going over 40 or 45 feet but not much more than that.
I've been talking with the Admiral as this thread develops and mentioned to her that with aft cockpit boats in larger sizes the consensus is that staying dry is not as much of an issue. I also have shown her some aft cockpit boats that have fairly nice aft cabins. I appreciate all the information being supplied as we're looking for our next S/V......

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Take a peak at the Catalina 400.
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...I've been talking with the Admiral as this thread develops and mentioned to her that with aft cockpit boats in larger sizes the consensus is that staying dry is not as much of an issue. I also have shown her some aft cockpit boats that have fairly nice aft cabins. I appreciate all the information being supplied as we're looking for our next S/V......
In case you misunderstood my earlier comment, I will mention that aft cockpit boats are usually considered "drier" in any size range. It's the smaller and mid-sized Center Cockpit boats that have a reputation for being wet in the cockpit, not the aft cockpit boats (generally speaking, but there are always exceptions).

If you are willing to consider aft-cockpit boats, that opens a whole pandoras box of possibilities....


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John,

I offer a respectful counterpoint to your point. I am aware of the allegation that the center cockpit is a "wetter" ride. And, it stands up to reason; that being that the cockpit and its contents are somewhat closer to the origination of the spray (the bow presumably). Having said that, I have sailed a center cockpit for the last 9-years on the Atlantic, the Chesapeake, the Delaware, Long Island Sound, Buzzards Bay and well north: I've never gotten a bit "wetter" that I know of than when I sailed the three aft cockpit boats that preceded this one in my ownership. The nastiest spray has always come on the short chop of the Chesapeake and even then, simply unfolding the dodger puts an end to it - on the cockpit "contents" anyway.

If a bit wetter ride is to be put in the minus column for center cockpit boats, fair enough, but as one who has owned both, it needs to be put very, very low on the priority list.

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and to qualify my statement about center cockpits being drier....
It appears, based on conversations with someone that has owned both, that they are also easier to fully enclose which I consider to be a huge plus.....

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