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Another great boat from a Canadian builder is the Amazon 37. A touch below your size, but otherwise fits your needs.



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Another great boat from a Canadian builder is the Amazon 37. A touch below your size, but otherwise fits your needs.
And Waterline Yachts too... another custom steel builder in BC - might be a bit on the pricey side if you can find them.

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Another great boat from a Canadian builder is the Amazon 37. A touch below your size, but otherwise fits your needs.
Alright, I know...resurrecting a three year old thread yada yada...but... Anyone out there actually sailed an Amazon 37? I'm certain that they are NOT a light air rocket, but can they sail out of their own way? Just working on our two year plan...and there are a couple I have seen for sale lately. Steel boats are intriguing...but...I also don't want a pig. For comparison purposes I am also considering the Tartan 37, CS-36T, and Beneteau First 38 (1980s).

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All of those you mention would outsail the Amazon 37.

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But Bob...they aren't STEEL...so I wouldn't survive an ocean crossing, right?? (Is there a smilie for "tongue firmly in cheek"??) Yeah, I pretty much knew that all of them would out sail the Amazon, the question is really by how much? While I've got your ear, you remember much about the "Mantra 38 pilot house" that is out of Bainbridge island? I believe her name is currently "Northern Light."

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The Amazons were designed by my old buddy Graham Shannon. They are decent designs.
I think the difference would depend on your a boat go. If you are a hacker then it won't make much difference. If yu are not a hacker then the diffenece might start to get annoying.

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I can't give you a VMG difference to three decimal places. I can oly give you my guess.
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My thought would be one of the last Ericson sailboats made by Pacafic Seacraft. Built like a truck, quality construction, etc. Check cout Yachtworld and search for a 38' Pacific Seacraft Ericson 380 Offshore. they have a nice one for 180K. Meets your criteria nicley.

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Bruce, I think the one you're referring to is no longer on YW. But I did find it on Sailboatlistings for $149,900. Though since it's no longer on YW, it may be sold or off the market. SL has a reputation of not removing dead listings in a timely fashion.

Of the PS-built E38-200s, the '98 on YW (in Annapolis) is listed for $144,900. There's a '93 in Vancouver for Can $99,000. And a '91 E38 in Noank, CT listed at $99,495. That's been on the market over a year.

I do not know which, if any, are the Offshore version but we did see the one in Noank, CT. After having looked at numerous other E38-200s, I liked this one best but it was $30K more than the next highest list price and even the broker could not justify the additional cost. The Noank boat read dry at all deck penetrations, the only E38 that did. Escape Plan was a close second with wet readings only near the anchor locker handle. And if the E38 is on your radar, this is a good one too.

FWIW, several people I've talked to (two former dealers included) say the PS-built Ericsons were NOT built to Pacific Seacraft standards. PS just bought the molds and continued building them the way Ericson did with upgrades only in the electrical and plumbing systems. But the dry deck in the only PS-built E38 we looked at made me wonder about that. I have a good feel for a quality build and the boat did seem a little better built. davidpm was also aboard that day and maybe he'll pipe in and give his assessment.

nemier, if you the E38 is on your short list and want to know more, let me know. We have lots of pics and more info on the '91. Good luck!
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