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Mitiempo, thank you for that decisive looking reordering of my shortlist. can you shed a bit of light on your thoughts? The Valiants, given everything I've learned, seem to deserve the top spot. The V40 at least has successfully ventured into Southern Ocean passages. Everything seems to suggest the 37 is just a smaller version of the same fine boat. The Spencer 35 -- I know that has an amazing record of passagemaking, including the famous Hal Roth expeditions. But I have found little feedback on the 42. Is the 42 truly an equal but bigger version of 35 in this respect? How do you put Southern Cross and Sabre midway? They seem to have a lot of good points. Not the name recognition of PSC and Shannon to be sure. Any more feedback much appreciated.
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The Spencer 42 is essentially an enlarged Spencer 35. If you compare their numbers on Sail Calculator Pro v3.53 - 2000+ boats you'll find they are very close. These both predate the Valiant designs. The reason I put the Southern Cross and the Sabre farther down is that they can't all be first. The only boat on the list I am not exited about is the Bayfield, a design I have never liked the looks of, both above the water (bowsprit with trailboards) and below the water (keel a bit long).

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All makes sense, Mitiempo. Only probs with Spencers is there seem to be few around, they can be very old -- even by standards of those of us hunting for old boats! -- and the cockpits look massive. But of course none of that need outweigh the many good points. Sabres seem to have a terrific build and reputation, though the old-fashioned salt in me has trouble getting used to that non-skeg-hung rudder. Is it a deal breaker or do I need to 'get with it'? The Southern Cross has good specs and seems right for the job. However, they have bowsprits, possibly not a deal breaker, but a bank balance breaker in marinas. Anyone else want to rank boats according to which will look after you best in a bad blow? What I can make out of Bristol 40s is that they certainly can cross oceans, but are not designed explicitly with that in mind. The enormous cockpits and absence of a bridge deck obviously come to mind. Of course that too can be rectified and would be worth rectifying if the hull/construction/stability etc amounted to a true blue ocean boat. The Valiant 40 has one major problem, at least for me, and that's cost. Valiant 37s.... maybe ideal?
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As far as the non-skeg rudders are concerned, wander around a boatyard and look at boats that are hauled out. In many cases the rudder and its post are holding the skeg on. If you shake a few you'll see where the strength comes from. If I was having a boat designed today it would be a spade rudder without a skeg. Built with suitable strength of course.
As far as the older Spencers, yes they are older but if well kept and upgraded that isn't always a problem.
I agree with the bowsprit comments as there are also anchoring issues to deal with and it's a lousy place to be when it's rough.

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The Cascade36 is interesting. ( I looked at a listing a few months ago) IIRC it has a rather large bowsprit.

The CapeDory36 (now the Robinhood36 I believe) is another I like the lines of and it sure seems like it would be a comfortable boat and still have some decent speed.

Hinckley 38 made my list also although it's not as pretty as the Pilot 35 or B40. Faster though!

Tartan37 of course.

And I'm surprised JEFFH hasn't chimed in here.
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Allied Princess 36'

I just purchased an Allied Princess 36', so far I love everything about it. The reverse steering wheel with worm gear steering system is great and it really opens up the cockpit. 4'6" draft with 5000lbs of lead at the bottom makes her extremely stable at sea. plenty of storage, and she looks damn good. The price you can get this boat at is also unbeatable. Its a buyers market, make them an offer and they will accept.
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