What sailboats are "worth" restoring - SailNet Community

   Search Sailnet:

 forums  store  


Quick Menu
Forums           
Articles          
Galleries        
Boat Reviews  
Classifieds     
Search SailNet 
Boat Search (new)

Shop the
SailNet Store
Anchor Locker
Boatbuilding & Repair
Charts
Clothing
Electrical
Electronics
Engine
Hatches and Portlights
Interior And Galley
Maintenance
Marine Electronics
Navigation
Other Items
Plumbing and Pumps
Rigging
Safety
Sailing Hardware
Trailer & Watersports
Clearance Items

Advertise Here






Go Back   SailNet Community > On Board > Boat Review and Purchase Forum
 Not a Member? 


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 02-07-2010
davidpm's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Madison
Posts: 3,643
Thanks: 160
Thanked 36 Times in 29 Posts
Rep Power: 7
davidpm is on a distinguished road
What sailboats are "worth" restoring

If one was to take on a project boat, a backyard special or dock queen I suspect that some brands/models may be generally considered a better choice than others.


First a couple of definitions:
Worth: I'm assuming that any sailboat restoration is not going to be profitable. So by worth I'm not saying it could be sold for a profit. By worth I thinking in terms of, great sailing, reasonable resale value, historical value, amazing design not just dollars.
Restore: This one is a bit vague too. Not necessarily a like new refit but sail-able.

What are some brand/models you may or may not personally choose to restore but would at least understand the call and what makes that boat worthy in your view.

For example normal but put on this list is the Pearson Triton. Nice shape hull, solidly build nice lines good reputation.
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #2  
Old 02-07-2010
bljones's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: South Coast Ontario
Posts: 8,128
Thanks: 32
Thanked 69 Times in 62 Posts
Rep Power: 7
bljones has a spectacular aura about bljones has a spectacular aura about
Any Hinkley.
Any Herreshoff design.
Any Alberg boat. They are all the same, just different lengths and different builders.
Any boat that makes you see the potential, and you can defend without rationalizing when you inevitably have "the talk" with your significant other.
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #3  
Old 02-07-2010
BarryL's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Long Island, NY
Posts: 1,584
Thanks: 3
Thanked 23 Times in 22 Posts
Rep Power: 11
BarryL is on a distinguished road
Hello,

Good thread.

I can't imagine someone letting a Hinkley or Herreshof get that bad in the first place.

Personally, I would think Tartan or Sabre. I think that some Sabres had problems with leaking chainplates resulting in wet decks. One of those could be a good choice to restore.

Barryh
__________________
Barry Lenoble
Deep Blue C, 2002 C&C 110
Mt. Sinai, NY

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Last edited by BarryL; 02-08-2010 at 08:16 AM.
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #4  
Old 02-07-2010
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Central Arkansas
Posts: 209
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 5
tomwatt is on a distinguished road
Worth is personal, to a point.
In locating my hull, I had specific things in mind, and the fact that the interior was in poor shape had little bearing on my final choice, as it is my intent (the scope of the project) to customize it to suit myself. So very few boats out there would have met my needs off the shelf anyway.
Having just spent part of this morning looking at a "project" that was sadly not salvageable, and being one of those sorts of dreamers that feels sadness at the thought of a fine old hull disintegrating through neglect, I suppose any reader can quickly peg me as "one of those"...
Since most (I'm sure the yacht brokers would quibble and I wouldn't argue that their viewpoint is invalid, at least from their standpoint) would agree that resale value has little to do with worth, you have to decide somewhere along the line what you're going to commit to a project.
And is it something with a big budget up front, or will it be a little along (which is the typical American backyard mechanic's way of doing things)?
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #5  
Old 02-07-2010
catamount's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Gulf of Maine
Posts: 598
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Rep Power: 12
catamount is on a distinguished road
I am quite happy with my Peterson 34, which I brought back from the brink.

Some other designs that I think would be worthwhile projects:
J35
Cal 40
C&C 35

I would think you should be looking for a boat that has a well-known reputation for its sailing qualities, and for which the original construction was decent (the Hinckley's and Alberg's mentioned above, for example). I would steer clear of boats that have a reputation for being cheaply-built. There's nothing really wrong with production lines like Bristol, Pearson, Catalina, but they don't really stand out, either. Of course, much depends on your intended use!
__________________
Peterson 34 GREYHAWK, West Boothbay Harbor, Maine

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
, a new voice for ocean conservation

Last edited by catamount; 02-07-2010 at 07:52 PM.
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #6  
Old 02-07-2010
Sabreman's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Yeocomico River, VA
Posts: 1,567
Thanks: 2
Thanked 14 Times in 11 Posts
Rep Power: 9
Sabreman will become famous soon enough Sabreman will become famous soon enough
I think that the question is too vague. Any boat is worth restoration if the end product meets the owner's needs and budget. The rest is just a matter of scale. There are "good" boats and "bad"; SailNet has lots of threads extolling the virtues and deficiencies of many brands. While I agree with BarryL about the virtues of Sabres and their chainplate issues, the list could be expanded greatly.
__________________
Sabre 38 "Victoria"
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #7  
Old 02-07-2010
Perithead's Avatar
Montgomery 17
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: S/E Alabama
Posts: 384
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Rep Power: 7
Perithead is on a distinguished road
I would have to say that the Montgomery line of boats are well worth restoring, I would love to find a M17 to restore myself I love that boat!

But any boat really is probably worth restoring as long as the restorer thinks so.
__________________
Small is beautiful, simple, cheap, and easy......

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Sailing Videos, Woodworking Videos and More!
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #8  
Old 02-07-2010
eMKay's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Buffalo
Posts: 838
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 7
eMKay is on a distinguished road
I would say anything that can be brought back to life in one off season, but I like sailing more than restoring.
__________________

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


Technician, RCR Yachts Buffalo.
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #9  
Old 02-07-2010
mitiempo's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Victoria B.C. Canada
Posts: 7,002
Thanks: 0
Thanked 62 Times in 53 Posts
Rep Power: 7
mitiempo will become famous soon enough mitiempo will become famous soon enough
A boat that sails well, was originally well built for its day. All older boats have issues, but the "project" should be restoring the boat to its original quality and modifying items you would like to change, but not to make up for bad design or build to start with. Everybody's eye for beauty is different, and I forget who said it but when rowing away you should want to turn around for another look.

Hinckley, Sabre, CS, C&C, Cal, Pearson (Triton and others), Alberg, Spencer (B.C. built), Bristol, Contest, SHE (UK), Rival, Contessa (26 & 32) and many others as well as custom boats from good designers, S&S, Peterson, Rhodes, Lapworth, Crealock, Herreschoff (probably wood), Perry, Tripp and others.

And the Vega 27 all except for one.....
__________________
Brian
Living aboard in Victoria Harbour
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #10  
Old 02-07-2010
eMKay's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Buffalo
Posts: 838
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 7
eMKay is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by mitiempo View Post
And the Vega 27 all except for one.....
LOL!

That boat would be worth it to the right person, but not me.
__________________

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


Technician, RCR Yachts Buffalo.
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

 
Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may post attachments
You may edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Noob wonderings and questions about sailing, life at sail and sailboats Vans General Discussion (sailing related) 49 06-20-2011 12:18 AM
A List of ALL sailboats made with layouts? Myblueheaven Boat Review and Purchase Forum 8 10-08-2010 11:32 AM
Crown Sailboats Z-Man Boat Review and Purchase Forum 5 08-14-2009 10:09 PM
Sailboats in distress in stormy seas - CBC.ca NewsReader News Feeds 0 11-09-2006 03:15 PM
Raven sailboats boatladyvt General Discussion (sailing related) 2 08-21-2006 10:56 AM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:59 PM.

Add to My Yahoo!         
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
SEO by vBSEO 3.6.1
(c) Marine.com LLC 2000-2012