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Another about the 379, if I am seeing the main sheet rigging correctly, looks to be a german system? is led back to a cockpit winch from the cabin top. That would be nice for a SH/DH sailing setup vs crew style. Not having used this system, not sure how it would be vs a traveler in the cockpit to a sheet at the back end of the boom.....
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Another about the 379, if I am seeing the main sheet rigging correctly, looks to be a german system? is led back to a cockpit winch from the cabin top. That would be nice for a SH/DH sailing setup vs crew style. Not having used this system, not sure how it would be vs a traveler in the cockpit to a sheet at the back end of the boom.....
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No, I don't think so. This is the same system that is on the 409. Is a German sheeting alright but the lines are brought back to the winch near the wheel. On that winch you control the front sail and the back sail. You have stoppers and have to change lines on the winch. It has the advantage of having all controls at hand, but not really the same thing as having two winches with the lines at hand  even if not as expensive.
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04-27-2011
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Here it is (and other interesting models)
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Thanks! Funny it does not come in the main Fox page but on the shipyard's page that builts the Fox for them.
But you are right, the 38ft looks great and it is also the ideal size for me. It will probably cost less than the Pogo 12.50 but more than the Pogo 10.50.
The boat has a big galley and a big storage space with an extra bunk. very interesting and a very nice looking boat with a great interior for cruising and I am sure it is fast enough in light winds and downwind. Probably better than the Pogo upwind
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Interesting floorplan compared to typical like it. It has storage where usually you see a nav desk of sorts on the port side. Altho there appears to be something on par just behind the mast. While the nav desk does seem to be going out of style per say, due to electronic nav aids, I still find a nav area to be nice for the radio, electric panels, laptop or laying out some kind of chart vs using the main saloon table. BUT, this is personal opinion, and may not follow the needs of other folks buying boats today.
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Interesting floorplan compared to typical like it. It has storage where usually you see a nav desk of sorts on the port side. Altho there appears to be something on par just behind the mast. While the nav desk does seem to be going out of style per say, due to electronic nav aids, I still find a nav area to be nice for the radio, electric panels, laptop or laying out some kind of chart vs using the main saloon table. BUT, this is personal opinion, and may not follow the needs of other folks buying boats today.
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Hey Marty, you have a nav desk and that's one of the more original designs on the boat. Like on the race boats, central, just in front of the stairs. It is partially fold-able and when not in use can serve as support table for the galley. You have space for instruments just in front of your eyes, between the mast and the table. You have plenty space for them.
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04-27-2011
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Hello,
We have left from Marseille on the 4th of March, and we are now in Gibraltar about to set sails towards Canarias. The Fox 10.20 has proved to be really good at sea with good speeds, especially reaching. Still a few twicks to do to get the maximum out of her.
It is quite fun to have so many people stopping by in each harbour asking about the boat.
I think this trip will help a lot getting every details sorted so the next customer will benefit for all that we are learning.
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We have left from Marseille on the 4th of March, and we are now in Gibraltar about to set sails towards Canarias. The Fox 10.20 has proved to be really good at sea with good speeds, especially reaching. Still a few twicks to do to get the maximum out of her.
It is quite fun to have so many people stopping by in each harbour asking about the boat.
I think this trip will help a lot getting every details sorted so the next customer will benefit for all that we are learning.
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Thank you for your input, there has been a lot of debate visavi how these types of designs work as cruisers and if you can achieve bigger speeds and greater comfort with all the bits and pieces needed for a longer trip.
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...The Fox 10.20 has proved to be really good at sea with good speeds, especially reaching. Still a few twicks to do to get the maximum out of her.
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I think this trip will help a lot getting every details sorted so the next customer will benefit for all that we are learning.
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Yes, certainly a good way to know how to improve a cruiser is to circumnavigate on it.  A bit radical but certainly a very good way, perhaps the best way
The lifting keel is already working?
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Hello,
Lifting keel is working properly. Best thing is that it does not move while sailing. (it had a bit, but we fixed it)
You should just be carefull not to lift it when there is some choppy sea. As it is lifted thanks to a big purchase and the mainsail winch, you just need to swet a bit to get it to the top.
So far, performances has been good. Of course you need to pay attention to the weight you carry around (as for every boat). It is all about knowing what you really need and where you want the weight to be.
After our navigation from Gibraltar to Canarias, we'll be able to estimate better how we get to actually live on board at sea, as so far we only did small jumps from one or two days max.
A French Magazine came onboard to try the boat, although you need to subscribe to read it. And it is in French.
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