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The Azuree 33 has a diesel 96L tank , the Elan 350 75L, the Rm 1050 130L, the Oceanis 37 130 and the new jeanneau 130L. Again the RM comes with the bigger tank for its syze: better authonomy.
I have asked to the guys of Elan if they could add a 100L water tank on the bow of the 350 to do exactly what Marty is saying and no way!
Perhaps the guys from Azuree are more acomodating but I guess that it is dificult to have space for an extra tank in small boats.
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Dragonfly 32. I love and hate Dragonfly boats  I Love the boats and I hate the price  . The boats are awesome, very well built, solid and with a very good quality interior with a smart design. About the price, better not to talk about it...I guess that there are some lucky bastards that can get them
They say about this one:
The floats are designed even bigger – compared to our previous design – which makes the boat more powerful and fast. It will undoubtedly be the fastest boat in our fleet.
Jesus, faster than this one?:
YouTube - Dragonfly Trimarans by Quorning Boats of Denmark
They also say:
The Dragonfly 32 offers fun and safe family sailing – and, has potential for serious racing and safe fast sailing at the same time.
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Like the other Dragonfly models, the new Dragonfly 32 will appear in two versions – one with a shorter rig and one in a more powerful version with a taller rig. The Dragonfly 32 will be offered standard with a 20 Hp outboard – optional is a 2-cylinder inboard diesel or electric drive. As standard, the boat is equipped with a tiller, but the cockpit has been designed and developed for wheel steering as well.
The boat will offer full standing headroom of 1.95 m in the main cabin – 1.87m in the toilet section.
By the way if someone down there is thinking in having one, there is a 2008 35ft on the Virgin Islands at a very interesting price. If you think it is expensive it is because you don't know how much cost a new one
View Boat Photos - YachtWorld.com
Regards
Paulo
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I LOVE that boat Paulo!
Thanks for posting.
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05-06-2011
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The Azuree 33 has a diesel 96L tank , the Elan 350 75L, the Rm 1050 130L, the Oceanis 37 130 and the new jeanneau 130L. Again the RM comes with the bigger tank for its syze: better authonomy.
I have asked to the guys of Elan if they could add a 100L water tank on the bow of the 350 to do exactly what Marty is saying and no way!
Perhaps the guys from Azuree are more acomodating but I guess that it is dificult to have space for an extra tank in small boats.
Regards
Paulo
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Hello Paulo, I think it is possible to put a soft water tank in the hanging locker of the Azuree 33. Anyway I will make a test of the boat around the end of May.
Yus
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Hello Paulo, I think it is possible to put a soft water tank in the hanging locker of the Azuree 33. Anyway I will make a test of the boat around the end of May.
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Yus, you can put a soft water tank anywhere but a hanging locker?
Keep us posted and if you can test sail also this one:
Photo boat ref. 20598
Probably they will take the price a bit down, if it is not sold first
Regards
Paulo
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My boat has a soft tank, but it is in a locker under a seat in the saloon. Many different sizes are made by Plastimo. This would be a good option. Then again, not personally knowing the floor plan, the hanging locker might be a good place for plumbing routing etc......can not rule out the ease of plumbing etc in the equation too.
Marty
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Quote:
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Yus, you can put a soft water tank anywhere but a hanging locker?
Keep us posted and if you can test sail also this one:
Photo boat ref. 20598
Probably they will take the price a bit down, if it is not sold first
Regards
Paulo
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Hi Paulo,
my budget is limited up to 120.000 euros maximum. I don't think they will sell a RM 1050 for that price. At least I will propose my offer.
To be honest I like better the Azuree 33 than other boats at the moment.
Let's see what I will feel after the test.
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I like the Azuree 33 and I have no doubt that it would be more fun and faster, but for living aboard the RM seems better to me and I am sure that after the Baba you will find it a very fast boat  .
They are very hard to get on second hand. They have made more than a hundred boats and all you can find is one boat on the used market and at a high price.
I have found this one but only in one add. I don't know if it is already sold. It seems to be at a good price and probably you can get always some cut but it is on the Canary Islands. That should not be a problem and you would take the opportunity to know the place and Madeira on the way back  .
RM 1050 - Voilier occasion - FORA MARINE
Consider also that if you buy a new boat you will lose in the first 2 years (on most boats) about 35% of the boat value while if you buy a good used boat the loss will be small. Meaning that if the Azuree 33 tuns not to be the boat you really want to live aboard, you will lose a lot of money when you sell it.
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Paulo
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05-09-2011
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Hi everyone,
I visited the Wauquiez factory today to have a look at the Opium 39 - a sexy boat...
They have two available, one with 29 hp engine and one with 40 hp (Yanmars). I know it has been said in tests that it is slow under engine, at the same time Yacht had it at 5,5 knots at 2300 rpm which to me, and also as the german dealer was told by flex-o-fold, indicates a too small propeller rather than to small engine.
Any other tests that you know of saying the same about speed under engine?
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Anders
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05-09-2011
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Hey Anders,
I think it has to do with the type of the hull. Those boats were not made to go with engine  . I have tried the one with 40hp and I don't think it will go much faster with the bigger engine, except in bad weather. you can feel they drag a lot of water. Funny how it looks the opposite when you pull the sails up.
All the tests I saw also show a slow cruising speed under engine.
I have tried also the RM 1200, same kind of hull, same problem. Also slow under engine. My old Bavaria would out perform both by 1K while on engine. Now in what regards sailing, that's another story
I have said it already here, one of the disadvantages of these kind of boats is the speed under engine. If compared with a Salona 41, it will make a huge difference, about 2K on the cruising speed.
Tell me more. Do you have liked the interior? What about global quality? Do you had a look at the Opium 39 that I had pointed to you, the one with the modified running rigging?
Tell me more
Regards
Paulo
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