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... Concerning payload, as I am skippering the boat myself, we finished it and maintain it ourselves. I can not help you much on that.

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Adien, Payload has nothing to do with money. What Ulf wants to know is what is the load your boat can carry without harming too much performance.

Nice to hear from you and to know everything worked alright with the boat and that you and your wife have made a safe and good crossing

Have fun and good winds.

Keep us posted about your voyage!

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Thanks for the explanation... oups!
We left with food for about a month, 260 L of water, 90 L of fuel and some books and all that you can imagine to go on a cruise. So basically, waterline at the start was 3cm higher than antifouling at bow and 1 cm above transom limit. So I'd think the total displacement was at 4.4 t but it is a lucky guess, I'd need to ask the architect.
I did transfer the anchors aft to keep bow up, so at the end, the transom was even a bit deeper, which did not seem to harm too much. I think we were stickyer at 8 knots, but then the flow separation speed at transom came down was at 9.7 kts intead of 9.5 kts, so planning was almost the same. Top speed was less obviously...
Crossing has been quite easy weather wise, we were quite lucky considering the period. 17 days at sea and 17 days with a kite up, apart for 2 hours.

Regards and enjoy the videos...
Blog with the whole trip is: Le Voyage de Capado
unfortunately it is only in French.
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Somme interesting in formations about the passage:

Transat time: 17 jours, 16 heures et 30 min.
Straight line distance: 2667 nm
Distance made: 2944 nm
Speed over the straight line: 6.28 kts
Speed over the course: 6.93 kts
Fuel consumption: 5 L
Water consumption: 130 L

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It seems that the hydro-generator and the solar panels are enough to keep the batteries up. Even without solar panels and hidro-generator the 90L of fuel would be more than enough to recharge batteries.

They have only consumed half the water they had.

The two things put together mean that the boat has a large autonomy, more than enough for any crossing. The water seems to be the limit but they can join easily 100L of bottled water, if needed.

Almost 7K for 17 days in a row is very good for a cruising boat, for a 10m boat is truly outstanding.

This shows that these type of boats, that include the Pogo 10.50, have no problem in carrying the load needed for a Transat (if the sailors like a simple live).

I would say that this type and size of boat is good for two and a Pogo 12.50 would be able to carry a 4 crew across the pond with no problem.

This practical example is very en-lighting regarding a discussion we had some time back regarding the payload of this kind of boat and its ability to cruise extensively
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It seems that the hydro-generator and the solar panels are enough to keep the batteries up.

This practical example is very en-lighting regarding a discussion we had some time back regarding the payload of this kind of boat and its ability to cruise extensively
This is indeed very interesting feedback about a long passage on a beamy, light displacement boat .

I saw that the Watt & Sea hydro-generator was used, quoted very effective with no measurable drag by Voiles & Voiliers, but also very expensive.
If this is not too much out of topic, I wonder if Capado is happy with the value for money of this high-tech gear.

And, by yhe way, what magic did you use to make such wonderful, stable images with what looks like an extremely unstable camera perch .

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I like your jib sheet arrangement. Simple, light and few holes in the deck.
Are you happy with it?
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And, by yhe way, what magic did you use to make such wonderful, stable images with what looks like an extremely unstable camera perch
My guess it is GoPro HD GoPro Digital Cameras for Sports

Watt&Sea hydro-generator price 5.962 € d'Hydrogénérateur Watt&sea

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Hello all,
Thanks PCP for the translation.
About hydrogenerator, we are more than happy with it. although the price is high, our savings in fuel are already quite high and as we continue travelling the savings will keep on stacking up. Moreover, you don't feel guilty to use power as you won't then have to use fossile energy.
G1000 guessed right, it is effectively a GO PRO camera. We had the hydrogenerateur for 4700 € ex vAT. Let's say the price is negociable.
Jib arrangement is fine, you just need to make sure your sail maker understands the system and, consequently, raises clew higher than the usual.
Then you can basically control clew height and in/out position by balancing tension between the outer and the inner hauler. For one trim of sheet, you can then fine tune by changing ring postion.
I think I might add some more demultiplication to reduce efforts on cleats.
So yes, I am very happy with it. Moreover it has been very easy to install and cheaper than a track.

Best regards for Saint Vincent.
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...it is effectively a GO PRO camera
Try GoPro with small kite, you will get amazing footages YouTube - ‪Dana 24 - GoPro‬‏
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I like your jib sheet arrangement. Simple, light and few holes in the deck.
Are you happy with it?
Is this the same like on the Pogo 12.50 as shown below?
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Hello,
Yes it is the same principle, then of course, some details are different as you don't have the same loads.
Using a Kite with the Go Pro looks very promising.I have to try that soon. Thanks for the idea.
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