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More Information on the Maxi 11 one of the hottest boats coming soon:





Look at that speed Polar

They say about the boat:


"Thirty-seven feet is enough to get standing headroom, nice saloon, a twin sink galley, spacious heads and shower compartment and quarters for 4 + 2 people.

So if you really enjoy high speed sailing in comfort and don’t mind irritating fellow sailors by leaving them behind while you manoeuvre your Maxi 11 at ease with a crew of one or two the new Maxi 11 is really for you.

The Iconic Maxi 11 will be designed with a set up for short-handed, or even single handed manoeuvring. A well thought out on-deck concept will give you the advantage of sailing almost as fast with a two crew, as with a full crew.

The masthead hoisted assymetrical spinnaker and bow with extendable carbon fibre bowsprit will give you sensational beam reach and downwind sailing characteristics. In addition you will get easier use, faster hoisting and more frequent gennaker sailing.

This state of the art 37 feet sailing yacht will have the same functions and performance as a larger yacht, yet it will be easier to handle.

Nowadays, it’s the speed, not the size that counts".











Dimensions

Loa: 11.40m Lwl: 10.80m Beam: 3.60m Draft: 2.20m alt 2.45m

Displ: 4.80t Ballast: 2.0t Sail Areas: Main: 50.0m2 Jib: 35.9m²

Assy. spin: 130.3m²



"Designed by this team with proven track record in crafting performance design yachts, the new Maxi 11 is engineered to push the boundaries of modern design and utilise the latest building practices to create an aggressive high performance sailing yacht that is technically consistent, ensuring absolute equal performance across the whole class – an evolution hardly seen before in high performance sport yachts.

This state of the art 37 feet yacht will have a longer waterline inspired by the best solutions from racing yachts. With stiffer and stronger advanced composites hull, wider stern, pointier bow, and extended bowsprit with maximized sail areas to match, the Maxi 11 will deliver exceptional upwind performance in all conditions with exciting double digit speed downwind and reaching. The sharper bow and single rudder design enables more enjoyable upwind tacking."


She is surprisingly comfortable below deck. Thirty-seven feet means standing headroom, nice saloon, a twin sink galley, spacious heads and shower compartment and quarters for 4 + 2 people.

Designed with large portholes or even all glass skylight solutions an astonishing amount of daylight will find its way below deck, giving you a nice experience, look and feel.

The interior design will be a characteristic Scandinavian minimalism, yet with genuine material and high quality details all coming together to give the Saloon a comfy “living room” ambiance.


I just wanted that the price was not also a Scandinavian one, but I bet I will not have any luck

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Maxi11 had blog page with time counter and last time I have checked it was "Prototype launch in 7 weeks", mid of August. Now they postponed launch till November... and changed design quite a lot.

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Maxi11 had blog page with time counter and last time I have checked it was "Prototype launch in 7 weeks", mid of August. Now they postponed launch till November... and changed design quite a lot.
Yes you are right, they have changed their project. I believe they have reformulated the boat to be more competitive in handicap racing. There are few images of the previous model but it seemed even more interesting to me:







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new Maxi11 looks like J/111. initial design was much more eye catching.

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New boat! From Sweden, and a fast one, the HR 10.30.

First take a look at the movie: The HR in a North European race.

YouTube - ‪Bohusracet 2011‬‏

YouTube - ‪HP1030 'Earl Grey' pÃ¥ jomfrutur, Kronborg og NivÃ¥‬‏

The boat is narrow and very light:






It has a good quality interior:




and is beautiful:











And it is fast...but coming from Sweden is not going to be cheap...well not everything can be perfect
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Beautifull boats

Billionaires Idea of a race boat. They are fast big (100ft) and need a huge crew.

This is the beginning of the TR race (Transat) that joined some of the biggest and fastest boats around, racers, cruiser racers and just big cruisers. They look nice, no doubt about that.

The fastest seem to be the Jk designed 100ft Rambler with the smaller Puma (Vor 70) putting a good fight now that Leopard has lost its bowsprit.

They have made 3 starts (slower boats first). This is the third start (fastest boats):

YouTube - ‪Third start 3rd July‬‏

This is the second start and guess who was there? The big one with the funny electronic controlled sails, the Maltese Falcon and it is not properly slow. Other two interesting boats on that start, The Ourson Rapide, the Finot designed luxurious yacht based on an open 60 and the Gunboat 66, pissing the big racing mono-hulls with big crews, going faster with a cruising boat and a smaller crew.

YouTube - ‪Second Start Transatlantic Race‬‏

YouTube - ‪Open Class Start‬‏

For the ones that want to follow the race (they have a tracker):

Transatlantic Race 2011 / Atlantic Ocean Series

There are also some 40 class boats that are putting a good fight against 50ft race boats with a full crew.

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HP (High Performance), the Sweden shipyard that makes the 10.30 has two more boats on the line to came out in the market, a 12.30m and a 8.5m boat.

The 41ft is interesting with a 3.7m beam, 2.5m draft and 1900kg of ballast to 5500kg of height. 106m2 of sail will make it a top performance boat.



But the one I find a knock out is the smaller boat, the 8.50:

3.05m of beam, with a very reduced beam at waterline (2.06) a draft that is compatible with cruising (1.80m) a 1650kg of weight and almost half of it as ballast (800kg) and on top of this the boat is just beautiful

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I hate the handicap concept

Some very interesting information about the Elan 350 and its optimization for IRC racing. The information is provided by the boat designer.

Most sailors would think that when you optimize a boat for racing that we are talking about making a boat as fast as we can. But that is not really about that, it is just a way of making a boat do best under an arbitrary set of rules and that means many times a considerable SLOWER boat.

Let's see what happens with the Elan 350 optimization for IRC racing:

Compared wins in time with different boat configurations.

Wins in time over the Standard boat:

Standard sail plan with carbon rig & rod rigging – 14 seconds/hour

S.G. iron & lead 2.35m draft keel – 38 seconds/hour

Elan Race Team RP version with taller rig & deep draft composite keel – 4m 12s/hour
Spinnaker pole – 17s/hour

These modifications affect the IRC rating like this:

1. 2.15m iron keel / alloy rig & wire rigging TCC = 1.029
2. 2.15m iron keel / carbon rig and rod rigging TCC = 1.033
3. 2.35m iron & lead keel / alloy rig & wire rigging TCC = 1.040
4. 2.35m iron & lead keel / carbon rig & rod rigging TCC = 1.044
5. 2.35m iron & lead keel / Elan Race Team RP carbon rig & rod rigging TCC = 1.101
6. 2.15m iron keel / carbon rig / pole, 100sqm SPA & 4.31m STL TCC = 1.035
7. 2.15m iron keel / carbon rig / pole, 110sqm SPA & 4.31m STL TCC = 1.038

.....
Conclusions:

About the fastest configuration with 2.35m iron & lead keel / Elan Racing Team RP carbon rig : Best configuration in under 6kts TWS as this option has highest sail area to wetted surface area.
Above 6kts TWS the boat is very uncompetitive under IRC due to its high rating. She must be capable of sailing 4 mins 12 secs per hour faster than the standard boat to perform better under IRC and the VPP is simply saying that she will not be able to do this above 6kts TWS.

........

The best configuration for winning in IRC:

For optimum performance under IRC, our recommendation would be to go with 2.15m draft S.G. iron keel and standard sized carbon rig with rod standing rigging. This will give best compromise between performance and rating. It is then down to what sort of racing the boat will do as to what best option is between spinnaker pole and bow sprit. If more reaching type courses are envisaged then the best option would be to remain with the centreline bowsprit and not carry a spinnaker pole. If a large amount of windward leeward type racing is envisaged then the best option would be to use a spinnaker pole with a combination of asymmetric and symmetric spinnakers.


Well, if you really want to win, make your boat slower. Just through out the lead keel and make it a lot heavier (lead and smaller draft will be compensated with a lot more ballast). This is the conclusion we can take from all this and the reason that I really hate handicap races: they don’t make sense and contribute to the design of slower and less effective sailboats.

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There are some that follow and participate on this thread that have a special interest in the Transaquadra. Just to say that the race is on...kind off

You can follow here (router):

Le départ de la Trasquadra est reporté | Transquadra 2011-2012

And for the ones that don't know about what I am talking about and why this race is special to some of us you can read here:

Transquadra: Good start to Barcelona | en.NauticWebNEWs.com

THE TRANSQUADRA'S LESSONS - Agathe Armand (English Version)

Some videos here:

Transquadra 2011 2012 - A Video PlayList on Dailymotion

Dailymotion - depart barcelone part 1 - une vidéo Sports & Extreme

Regarding interesting boats this race shows what are the types of boats best suited to be solo sailed (or duo sailed) by a non professional sailor (with more than 40 year's old), fast across the Atlantic. That is an interesting information and this is an interesting race
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TRANSQUADRA and boat's performance

The Transquadra is very handy to take relevant information about boat performance, specially in what regards solo or duo sailing. This information is interesting because these guys are not super sailors that can sail fast a very powerful boat, but mostly average sailors like you and me.

There are some big boats there (40 to 49ft) and mostly small boats, from 30 to 35ft. The first conclusion is that small boats are faster with a small and not super experienced crew. This is not a conclusion from this edition but a conclusion we can confirm in past editions.

Let's take a look at how the boats are doing on this edition:

The ones that sailed from Barcelona (they departed sooner) had very weak and variable winds. The leader is a Jeanneau SF 3200, followed by another SF 3200, a JPK 110 and the leader on solo sails a A35. The bigger boats are way back (2 Dufour 40, a Hanse 411, a Comfortina 42) and the last is a Jeanneau SO 49.

The ones that departed Yesterday from Saint Nazaire had good winds and are sailing downwind with 14K winds. The leader is a A35 (doing 8.7K). There are several A35 on the leading pack, a A31, several JPK 110 and a JPK 9.6. The Sun Fast 3200 are close, just a little behind but ahead of bigger boats like two First 40.7, a GS 37, two 40 Sun Fast and a GS 40.

The fastest solo boat seems to be a First 35 followed by a Jod 35. Close there are a A31, a JPK 110 and a SF 3200.

It seems that the guys on the bigger boats, like the First 40.7 or GS 40 are not able to exploit the boat to its full potential while the guys on smaller boats manage to go faster, probably because the boat and the smaller sails are easier to handle.

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