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Bingo!! That's exactly the kind of thing he'll like!

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If he does not want to spend that kind of money perhaps a Gieffe 60?









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Take a look at the Esence:



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Those Wally's have always been gorgeous but a little TOO smooth for my taste. If I'm going to spend three times my net worth on a toy boat, it has to have a pair of coffee grinders on deck for me to perch on and view the envious peasants on the dock while enjoying my morning cuppa.

I love cool sailboat gear and the two coolest pieces of gear ever are coffee grinders and those semi-transparent, carbon fiber load path sails.

I, myself, personally intend to continue being outspoken and opinionated, intolerant of all fanatics, fools and ignoramuses, deeply suspicious of all those who have "found the answer" and on my bad days, downright rude.
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Hei Smack, another option, an intelligent one, I would say is the new Salona 60. I bet this one is going to quick ass at the regatta circuit it is fully customizable and will cost less than the Italian or the Nordic ones.

I find it beautifully:











This is a boat that will sail mainly between 10 and 12K and like all Salonas it will need little wind to sail at those speeds. Downwind with strong winds it will go much faster.

The first one is already sold and they plan to launch it next April. They say the boat has been sold to a sail celebrity but don't say to whom. A Sailor's boat sold to a good sailor probably to Nexus owner, Dean Barker (Emirates Team NZ America’s Cup skipper).

The boat was designed by Jason Ker one of my favorite designers. The Ker are among the fastest boats on the race circuit.

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Let's stop talking about dream boats and talk about boats most people buy and among those the Benetau Oceanis is one of the bestsellers. The 40ft boats are now probably the boats that sell more so let's have a look at the new 41 an important boat made to counteract the Jeanneau 409 domination on this important sector. This boat need to be good because the 409 is really a benchmark.























Before saying something about this boat I would like to hear your comments so please say what you think about it. Do you like it?


http://www.beneteau.com/Sailing-Yach...nis/Oceanis-41

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Funny thing about your comment re the 409 and a bit of performance. Three of us on the Jeanneau-owners.com forum site, were all saying a bit more power, ie about a meter taller mast, deeper keel or a iron/lead option, upgraded winches both on the deck and cabin top, with 2 sets of winches on the deck for HS and spins. Probably slightly deeper thinner rudders, 3 reef ability on the main to name a few things we all thought would be good to have, ie a super performance over the std P version, which really only has a folding prop, upgraded deck gear and spin option. If one is going to upgrade, lets do a serious UPGRADE to the PERFORMANCE of the boat!

I have not seen one yet.....there is a boat show in Seattle in a couple of weeks, hopefully will have a chance to gander at the 409 and 379.

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Just got back from a 2 week bareboat charter of a SO 36i in Corsica and will have notes / comments tomorrow. Needless to say, everything you mentioned above is a must for someone that want's to have "fun" sailing one of these things.
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Just got back from a 2 week bareboat charter of a SO 36i in Corsica and will have notes / comments tomorrow. Needless to say, everything you mentioned above is a must for someone that want's to have "fun" sailing one of these things.
And please compare it with the Benetau oceanis 36 that you have sailed some time back.

Regarding performance and sail boats the problem is that performance is expensive and small differences in speed cost a lot of money. But you are right more important than speed is the feeling and the fun, they are priceless

Some years back I found a French Benetau dealer that was willing to modify an Oceanis Benetau 36 to make it a performance boat (on the lines of what Marty says). He had taken notes and made me an offer: it was ridiculous expensive The boat was not an inexpensive boat anymore but an expensive boat, as expensive as other performance boats and off course, with a much bigger devaluation as a used boat. That's the problem...

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While we are waiting on those comments on the Benetau 41 and for bb74 review, take a look at some interesting boats I saw while sailing:

This Schooner, that I found out is for sale for not too much money:





and this replica of a Phoenician sail boat, a cargo one:



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First image of the new Dufour 36 performance:





I like it. A Felci design, probably to substitute the 34P.
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Hi Paulo and Anders,

While reading up on all these performance cruisers it seems like the Opium 39 has the best combination of upwind and downwind performance for 40 footers.

From some of the numbers, it seems to point better than a Pogo and better downwind than narrow boats like the Luffes ,Xs, Salonas. Interior seems better from the pics than the Js. Seems like a perfect racer/cruiser.

Am I making sense with regards to this boat?

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