Originally Posted by bjung
Thanks for the report on the Salona 41. The sailing/motoring performance you reported is definetly noteworthy. Someone in this thread had mentioned the lack of quality interior at a boatshow. How did you feel about it(solid or particleboard?)?
Nobody is using solid wood on fast sailboats not even the ones that are very expensive. The reason is weight. For solid wood to have the same resistance as prime wood laminate (not really know if this is the right word) it would have to be much thinker and much heavier. Not even on prime very expensive relativelly fast cruising boats like the cruising line of X yachts they use it. Weight is a no no in any sailing boat.
It was Andrews that had said that was not impressed with the Salona quality, but now that he has a Malo he is a bit snob
. Of course if we compare it with a Malo or a Najad it is not an even match, those boats cost 3 times more
but if you compare it with a Dufour or a Jeanneau it will be better, not in the overall appearance but on the built quality and I would say on the solidity and quality of the accessories and most of all on the hull strength. Of course a Malo or a Najad because they have such a luxurious interior will pay that on overall sailing performance.
Originally Posted by bjung
How is the access to the engine, etc.?
You mentioned feeling like on the 2nd floor in the Opium. Was this due to more heeling, or freeboard?
BTW, what is the price of the Salona 41 fully equipped?
Most production boats have a very good acess to the engine and this one is no exception. A big front opening that includes the stairs and that goes up with hydraulics and stay there and two smaller side ones.
By the way I forgot to mention that the stairs are excellent and going up and down even with the hands occupied is easy and that is a very important feature that is many times overlooked. We had sailed before on an Hanse and the way up and down was.....dangerous!
No, the Opium or other similar performance boat like the Pogo have small freeboards compared with regular cruising boats and probably similar to the one from Salona and on most sailing positions will heel less than a Salona because they have more form stability (more beam).
I am only talking about going close upwind. On that position if you go at the max speed the boat can make the heeling will be similar (25/30º) and than you would be a lot more up on those kind of boats not only because the overall beam is much bigger but also because those boats have max beam were you seat, near the transom while on boats like the Salona max beam is on the middle of the boat and where the wheels-man seat the beam is already noticeable smaller.
The overall difference is quite big: the Pogo 12.50 has the same lenght of the Salona 41 the Pogo beam is 4.5m, the Salona beam is 3.84 but the difference of beam at the transom is much bigger, as I have explained.
You will feel clearly the difference. I don't like the feeling but as I have said this is a personal thing and maybe you just get used to it with time. After all old boats had tiny cockpits and many continue to think that the seaworthiness of a boat is connected with a tiny cockpit, even on 42fts and I certainly don't think that way.
Hum! the price of the Salona full equipped is a difficult question because the boat can assume many configurations, including racing ones.
I can tell you that the price of the basic boat is about 159 000 € and that for 174 000€ you will have a sailaway boat including sails and electronics (including plotter and GPS). Than you have a comfort package that includes heating and a more expensive performance package that really includes some expensive stuff, like lead keel, Epoxy vacuum hull, carbon spinnaker pole, performance mast with rod shrouds and hydraulic backstay adjuster. with the three packs and with the discount that is connected if you buy the boat with time the boat will cost 202 800€.
Than you will have a big list of options to customize the boat, even to the specs of a racing boat and one of the less expensive/performance you can find .
Many would not be interested in the performance package that is expensive (20 000 €) and will spend the money elsewhere. They even are disposed to hear you if the things you want are not on that list and will make all the efforts to give you what you want. That is not usual on production boats and I guess they will have to finish with that when they start to sell more boats because that is great but not practical and expensive for them.
By the way two expensive pieces of equipment that will contribute to making it a race winner are just two things that will make the boat uglier...but lighter and stronger: The nice wood panels (bulkheads) will go out to be substituted by black basalt ( an organic composite similar to carbon) and the interior material ( laminated wood) will be substituted by a much lighter and stronger material. The boat will look more naked (less cabinets) but even so it will be more expensive
That with a racing keel (that is specially designed taking into count ratings and lower CG) is basically what differentiates the performance version from the racing one that they call IBC specked.
The 37 IBC looks like this: