Originally Posted by blt2ski
Well, sorry it took so long Paulo, but there is a link to Bob;s review of the Salona. I'm positive there will be some difference of opinion.....but, I have also never seen Bob willing to NOT debate plus or minus's from reasonable arguing folks!
But you are wrong about that difference in opinion, at most a difference in terminology.
The only thing I do not agree is with this description: "The boat is pretty beamy with an L/B of 3.17"
but as I have explained on the post about his review of the Salona 37, this is only a matter of perspective: He is looking probably under its own perspective, I am looking under the perspective of modern performance boats that are designed today and are in the market. Under that perspective the boat has a moderate beam, meaning an average one.
As I have said most of the review is a boat description and besides as Bob Perry says, he never saw a Salona, while I have visited the shipyard two times, been inside many Salonas, sailed several including the 38 that he is reviewing.
But I agree with all he is saying out of that difference in terminology:
"It’s interesting that given similar markets different designers and builders come up with totally different boats. Catalina has its approach and the Salona Yachts group from Croatia has its own, and the two boats are an interesting study in contrast... The SA/D is 20.32, so while this boat is promoted as more of a cruiser than a racer there is sufficient sail area to give the boat good light air speed compared to the Catalina’s SA/D of 15.9.
...The deck design features a big cockpit open at the transom... I like the relatively short cabintrunk but while it looks good it is going to take a chunk out of headroom forward....
Apart from those options the layouts are very ordinary looking on paper but they appear comfortable and functional. I have never seen a Salona in person so I have no idea what its finishing details are like.
One of the interesting aspects of this design is that it uses a stainless steel framework in the bilge to take the keel and rig loads. This includes a hefty looking large U-shaped channel piece for longitudinal loads and steel floors spreading out from the center channel. Carbon fiber layers are added to this framework “to obtain equilibrium of stainless steel structure and inner liner attached to it.” The brochure also says the “slamming zone” is built with a single skin “in order to avoid shear failure of the core material under heavy loads.”
There is a lot of competition in this size range. To catch the market’s eye designers need to come up with something different. I don’t see much here that is different. I’m sure it is a very nice boat and I’m certain it will perform well."
I agree with all this. The boat is not revolutionary, it comes as an evolution of the tradition (like the new Grand Soleil 39) it is just an improvement of the previous Salona 37. That does not mean that it is not a good boat, the Salona 37 was already a good fast cruiser boat and also a race winner
On the boat description Bob Perry says: "The entry is fine and the overhangs are minimal. There is a lot of rocker in the ends of this boat. Look how the canoe body kicks up at the stern"
And I agree and that is one of the things that I like on this boat. Both things mean a more comfortable wave passage, specially upwind and more noticeably with bad weather.
Sure there are lots of medium displacement boats with more rocker and that would even be softer in what regards slamming, but I am not interested in slow boats, specially in light air and this one offer an interesting compromise among performance boats.
There is one thing that Bob Perry did not mention and that is very important in what regards almost everybody: Price.
Sure there are lots of good boats around that could be compared with the Salona 38: the XP 38, the Grand Soleil 39, the Elan 38, the Comet 38, the Sydney GTS 37, the Finngulf 37, The Arcona 37 and many more, but from all those the only ones I can afford are the Elan 38 and the Salona 38.
I prefer the Salona for a number of reasons but the most important of them is that I just like more the Salona
and besides that the Guys from Salona allow me to customize the boat in a way that only much more expensive semi custom boats normally do and that is very important for me.