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I have a question about all these new boats. What happened to the extruded aluminum toe rail? Everyone seems to have gone to teak. No place to hook a snatch block or a preventer. Why?
Well, for the same reason these ones had not one:



They are ugly and ruin the looks of a boat

Delphia was the last one to use them but is not using them anymore on the new boats.

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Well some say this thread is about boat porn. All is relative but some of the boats posted here while beautiful are just dream boats for all of us. This post is not about a dream boat for anybody. This boat, if you make it yourself, will cost less than the discount that Hanse is offering in the Hanse 400.

If you have some minimal skill you can just buy the plans and make it in the garage. It is designed for that and easiest to build it is hard to find, besides the ones that build the boat have a very flexible arrangement, they can send you what you want, including only the most difficult part to build.

This boat is not only designed to be easy to build but also to be fast, seaworthy, to carry a lot of load and to be easily transportable. It is a dream boat only if you are to lazy

Look how it goes (it does not look like a small boat, looking at the speed):



hublot-avion.MOV - YouTube



Have a better look at the boat:


Aviateur 5,70 : le renouveau du Muscadet



It is designed by Heric Henseval, it has only 5.7m and a lifting keel with all the ballast on a bulb and I love it

CHARACTERISTICS:

Building material: 9mm thick. marine plywood, glass fiber and epoxy resin.
Hull lenght: 5,70 m
Lenght at DWL: 5,70 m
Lenght over all, LOA: 5,95 m
Beam max. : 2,50 m
Beam (max) at DWL : 1,9 m
Fwd freeboard: 0,95 m
Aft freeboard: 0,81 m
Draft min./max.0,66 m / 1,31 m
Retractable keel with tackle (easy and simple system)
Lenght from DWL to the head of the mast: 8,88 m
Engine: outboard from 2 HP to 6 HP
Mainsail Area: 14,4m2
Solent Area: 8,09m2
Total Area to windward: 22,5m2
Spinnaker Area (asymetrical): 27m2
Sliding integrated pool (through the watertight anchor locker)
Displacement: 625 kg
Déplacement (half loading) 837.5 kg
Déplacement (full loading) 1050 kg
CAN BE WELL LOADED FOR BIG NAVIGATIONS
Keel ballast: 230kg with 200kg of bulb
Unsinkable with flotation foam under berthes
Transportable
Beachable
European Conception Category: C3 D4

Aviateur 5,70m is a very stiff boat with a big interior volume.





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Well, if you don't have the money for this one or just find it too big, why not a smaller one?

This one was the first little one made by the same architect, the Souriceau, it has 4.75m:




Souriceau : la micro-croisière hauturière (video)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPJUaYmN3SE




For more information and prices:


AVIATEUR 5.70m - hensevalyd-englishs jimdo page!

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or maybe aluminium Mini 650 precut kit for 12k EUR?
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or maybe aluminium Mini 650 precut kit for 12k EUR?
Hi G!

It is the first time you post about a boat I never heard of.

Thanks for this one. It is not yet a boat, just a project and I don't think they have yet started one even if they give a budget.

For racing an aluminum one would not make sense because it is heavier than the plywood or fiberglass ones, even considering the weight they give, that seems a bit optimistic to me.

For cruising would be alright but I would bet that the owner of a mini would like to make one or two races a year and besides aluminum is a very bad insulator so you would have to put some more money in a solution.

12k€ does not seem too much, but welding an aluminum boat is a complicated business even for professionals. I find their final price for a complete boat with head and a small galley even better: 25000€




















The boat comes from a very young designer that is starting his carer :


Mini 650 Balipi sail Boat



Technical data:

(m)
Length OA 6,5
Length WL 6,5
Beam OA 3
Beam WL
Depth 2
Draft 12
Freeboard 0,8
Ballast: (Kg) 450
Displacement (kg) 1150
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Construction of hull: multiple hard chine, full welded

Material of hull: Aluminum AlMg4.5 (5083)

Motor: NA

Fuel tank: NA


Navigation: Northstar. C-map

seating: 4

WC, kitchen

deck equipment: HARKEN

The first aluminum minitransat boat. Particulary strong. A little heavier than racing boat. Offer for sailing training, charter market, day recreational sailing. For fans of mini 6.50 class.



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Paulo, that is quite a challenge to surprise you Several years ago I was really obsessed with mini class, so still have some kind of links. Sure this alu not for racing, but I doubt you can race on Aviateur 5.70 too. Here is the place to go for a supercharged one Tocatec 650

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Malango 9.99 (34 ft) check out the dinghy. Interior looks no worse than an RM



Visite guidée à bord du Malango 9.99 du Chantier idb Marine - YouTube
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Some Solaris One 37 interior pictures. Indeed very nice boat. Any clue on price tag?
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Interesting small boats

Paulo,

Talking about boat porn and small boats, have you found any decent pictures and info about the RM1060 Performance version that was recently launched? They even improved cabin ventilation. I wonder if any other lessons learned went into the design. The perception is that the boat is an under-performer, having been so silent about the testing and numbers. But still, I find it interesting.

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Interesting indeed.. looks like a fun ride with a lot of neat ideas.. spartan, but fun. Wonder if they'd build/engineer a fixed keel version?

Plenty of good images and info on their site.

http://www.idbmarine.com/gb/malango999.php


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Malango 9.99 (34 ft) check out the dinghy. Interior looks no worse than an RM
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Hi Chimbatete,

Thanks for posting!

Yes the Malango is a very nice boat but not with the same RM vocation. The RM is made for long range cruising, the Malango is more a day sailer and weekend cruiser, specially the one you have posted. The photo you have posted is not from the 9.99 but from the the first sailboat they have made, the smaller one, the 870.

The 9.99 is a bit more ambitious and it is, like the 870, a pleasure to sail. the 9.99 has two cabins while the 870 only has one. Like the 870, it has a huge cockpit but the interior space and storage are enough for coastal cruising. The boat has a very small tankage, to make it light and fun to sail, but with some modifications to increase the tankage this one can take a couple for long range cruising and even across the pond.

A very nice boat indeed, I would say, a sexy boat:











































and this boat can really go fast. Look at the movie:

Sortie en mer à bord du Malango 999 - YouTube


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