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Back to the Paris boat show and to sexy boats, well the Grand Soleil 39 can pretend that title, but the little A27 is even sexier. Good what a beautiful boat, one capable of taken rationality out of you for sheer desire and sail pleasure, I mean if you are the kind of guy that prefer sailing to living in comfort






This is a racer and a weekender but what a boat....and with the possibility of having a solo version with all controls at hand (look in the movie at that strange box with all controls there).







The Archambault, the 31 and the 35 are favorite boats on the French Transat for amateurs, the Transquadra and they have learned with solo sailors all the tricks that were needed to solo sail a performance boat and have incorporated all in this boat.

This boat has also a version with two rudders and a lifting keel that will make it a very good all-round daysailer.

http://www.diamond-yachts.de/deliver.php?id=128

http://www.diamond-yachts.de/deliver.php?id=152

The boat I saw in Paris had not yet an interior (they had not time to finish the boat) but if it is a functional as on their other boats, it would be not only a great racer but a very fun weekender, a boat that will reward its owner with tons of sailing pleasure, I am sure


Don't miss the movie:

Take a look at the boat that is next to it. Its a Surprise, the boat that 30 years back was the first big success for Archambault. Both boats are about the same length and had the same program: racing and week-end cruising and the surprise was a very fast boat 30 years ago. The comparison shows the big evolution in design and particularly in hull design on the last 30 years.


A 27 : digne successeur du Surprise

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I had already talked and posted movies about the Farlie 55, a very exclusive modern classic, I mean a truly classical boat with a more modern hull and a bulbed keel, a beautiful thing that make me fell like a peasant should feel near a beautiful princess

What a beautiful and untouchable sailboat except for that guy from Yachting world that pretending to make a test sail got a free ride with the beauty queen. Well, I would have liked to be in its place: What a lovely boat


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Fairlie is elegant. She would be fast as well.
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After a boat that almost nobody can have, a boat that anybody can have

The Elan 210 (that has several distributors in America) was also at the Paris boat show. The boat had been presented in January this year in Dusseldorf and since then a lot of boats have been sold and the boat has raised a lot of interest everywhere.

Voile and Voiliers made the best presentation of the boat I ever saw, a realy nice movie that shows about everything almost as if you were on the boat:

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Elan 210 : comme un grand !


And the guys from Giornaledellavela have sailed it fast. Pity that I never saw images of this boat going with geenaker downwind. It should go really fast

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Ok, we cannot have always good looking boats

Well, this one it is a bit of a deception, at least in what regards the outside looks. It just have lost that adventurer look. Now it seems a cruiser like any other and not even a particularly nice one. The new Allures 39.9 the new aluminum French center boarder that replaces the Allures 40:



The interior is nice, open and with lots of light, a lot better than the old one:



The boat was presented at the Paris boat show.
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If you Guys have not yet noticed it well deserve to pay attention to the attempt on the new World Record Navigation. They have 8 hours over Cammas, the one that owns the record but they are taking incredible risks running near 60º degrees South (58º), slalom Icebergs at 30/40K speed and Jumping on 33ft waves.

I am not exaggerating, they have beaten the speed record of the boat at 48K and the guy said the next second they were airborne over a 33ft wave

They have huge winds and big seas ahead (30h) and they talk about running without sail, only the mast!!!!! Its main problem is slow down the boat if they needed too. With 40K winds and over even only with the mast they will be doing over 20K and that can be too much for really heavy seas, not what you and I call heavy seas (on those they go over 30K) but on really bad seas, the ones where most sailors are considering a Mayday.

That is an incredible story that deserves to be followed by all that loves sail. They are out there, alot South of New Zealand sprinting to the more isolated place on earth, the big Southern Ocean on the way to the horn and they would be in deep trouble if they break the boat. Help would take a long way to arrive, maybe too long.

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Back to the Paris boat show and to one of the surprises, the XP 38. Yes I love the boat and I have said that already here but the interior on the photos and movies I had saw looked small and not very well designed. Well, it is not as big or as warm as the one from the Salona 38 but it is nice, very well done and cozy. Much more suitable for cruising than what I thought.



Pity that the XP 38 has only one version with 3 cabins because that is what make the saloon smaller than what it could have been, I mean the position of the head.

The head is small but will not be a problem unless you are really big. If you are you would have leg problems while seating at the toilet. The head it is also on the small side on the Salona 38 thee cabin, with more space for legs but less space for shower but it is much bigger on the Salona 2 cabin version and if you use the third cabin for storage, it makes a lot of sense to have a bigger head.

Another negative point is the stairs, really inclined, like the Grand Soleil 39 and a lot worse than on the Salona 38.

A very nice boat anyway, better for cruising than what I thought and a dam good and fast sailboat with a superior stability. A true bluewater boat.

Take a look at the presentation at the Paris boat show by "Voile and Voiliers"

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XP 38 : la performance par la puissance


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XP-38: Schnörkellos schnell segeln - YACHT-TV*|*YACHT.DE


And another surprise, the Xp 44 interior, that on the photos looked a lot better than the one from Xp 38 it is not. It is just a slightly bigger Xp 38, less than what the size difference would let to suppose and suprinsingly its stair is as inclined as the one from the Xp 38.

The First 45, The Salona 44 or the Elan 45 has a lot more to offer in what regards interior space and comfort even if the interior from the X is, as always, very well finished and with good quality everywhere. Of course in what regards pure performance I believe that the Xp 44 would be a bit faster but nothing that will really matter in what regards performance cruising.

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Performance-Cruiser: Rückbesinnung auf den Sport - YACHT-TV*|*YACHT.DE






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Paulo,

I'll have one of those Elan 210 for my birthday please. What a fabulous thing for daysailing and a bit of club racing. Fabulous. We have a Beneteau of about the same size in our mooring field, I feel the same way about that.

Allures 399 .... looks good. I'd have one of those in a shot but you would have to design a pretty impressive dodger. She'd be very wet with the wheels so far aft. I also look at the main sheet to boom position. Mid boom is one thing but man that is a long way forward, though perhaps its just the image.

As for Banque Populaire V I am in two minds. Part of me freaks out at the idea of ever crazier atempts on these records while I acknowledge that some of us will always strive to achieve bigger and better no matter the risk. At least one must say that BPV looks astonishingly well prepared in contrast to the likes of the failed attempt a few years back by Tony Bullimore which had disaster written all over it from start to ignominous finish.

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Some time ago was raced in Sweden another Tjorn Runt a 40 year's old race that joins all kinds of boats and all kinds of sailors. A sail celebration, a Nordic one. Have a look, it is a nice movie:

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Paulo,

I'll have one of those Elan 210 for my birthday please. What a fabulous thing for daysailing and a bit of club racing. Fabulous. We have a Beneteau of about the same size in our mooring field, I feel the same way about that.

Allures 399 .... looks good. I'd have one of those in a shot but you would have to design a pretty impressive dodger. She'd be very wet with the wheels so far aft. I also look at the main sheet to boom position. Mid boom is one thing but man that is a long way forward, though perhaps its just the image.

As for Banque Populaire V I am in two minds. Part of me freaks out at the idea of ever crazier atempts on these records while I acknowledge that some of us will always strive to achieve bigger and better no matter the risk. At least one must say that BPV looks astonishingly well prepared in contrast to the likes of the failed attempt a few years back by Tony Bullimore which had disaster written all over it from start to ignominous finish.
Well, I will give you one of those on your birthday if you give me a A27 in mine

Regarding the Allures 39.9 I will prefer to say nothing without seeing the boat. I liked the old Allures 40 and this one don't seem nicer to me, except on the interior. I can be wrong, bit this is not a revolutionary boat as was the Allures 44 in its time. The innovation regarding the OVNI was that while the OVNI as an all aluminum boat, the Allures has an aluminum hull but all the rest is cored fiberglass and that make it not only lighter but also with a lower CG, giving them a better stability curve, specially in what concerns reserve stability and AVS.

some Allures from the "old" line, including the 40



And the new Allures 45, a very beautiful boat





Allures have being growing at a fantastic rhythm, 100% each year and some of its success is due to guys that cruise on remote places with them:



Regarding Banque Populaire, they only seem crazy. As in any serious racing there are always some risk evolved but his skipper is one of the more experienced sailors on the world. He knows very well what he is doing and all the crew as a huge respect for him:

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