Interesting Sailboats

[G1000]

or maybe aluminium Mini 650 precut kit for 12k EUR?

[PCP]

Originally Posted by G1000

or maybe aluminium Mini 650 precut kit for 12k EUR?

Hi G!

It is the first time you post about a boat I never heard of.

Thanks for this one. It is not yet a boat, just a project and I don't think they have yet started one even if they give a budget.

For racing an aluminum one would not make sense because it is heavier than the plywood or fiberglass ones, even considering the weight they give, that seems a bit optimistic to me.

For cruising would be alright but I would bet that the owner of a mini would like to make one or two races a year and besides aluminum is a very bad insulator so you would have to put some more money in a solution.

12k€ does not seem too much, but welding an aluminum boat is a complicated business even for professionals. I find their final price for a complete boat with head and a small galley even better: 25000€




















The boat comes from a very young designer that is starting his carer :


Mini 650 Balipi sail Boat



Technical data:

(m)
Length OA 6,5
Length WL 6,5
Beam OA 3
Beam WL
Depth 2
Draft 12
Freeboard 0,8
Ballast: (Kg) 450
Displacement (kg) 1150
description:

Construction of hull: multiple hard chine, full welded

Material of hull: Aluminum AlMg4.5 (5083)

Motor: NA

Fuel tank: NA

Navigation: Northstar. C-map

seating: 4

WC, kitchen

deck equipment: HARKEN

The first aluminum minitransat boat. Particulary strong. A little heavier than racing boat. Offer for sailing training, charter market, day recreational sailing. For fans of mini 6.50 class.


Regards

Paulo

[G1000]

Paulo, that is quite a challenge to surprise you Several years ago I was really obsessed with mini class, so still have some kind of links. Sure this alu not for racing, but I doubt you can race on Aviateur 5.70 too. Here is the place to go for a supercharged one Tocatec 650

[Chimbatete]

Interesting Sailboat

Malango 9.99 (34 ft) check out the dinghy. Interior looks no worse than an RM



Visite guidée ŕ bord du Malango 9.99 du Chantier idb Marine - YouTube

[G1000]

Some Solaris One 37 interior pictures. Indeed very nice boat. Any clue on price tag?

[HMoll]

Paulo,

Talking about boat porn and small boats, have you found any decent pictures and info about the RM1060 Performance version that was recently launched? They even improved cabin ventilation. I wonder if any other lessons learned went into the design. The perception is that the boat is an under-performer, having been so silent about the testing and numbers. But still, I find it interesting.

Hans

[Faster]

Interesting indeed.. looks like a fun ride with a lot of neat ideas.. spartan, but fun. Wonder if they'd build/engineer a fixed keel version?

Plenty of good images and info on their site.

http://www.idbmarine.com/gb/malango999.php

Originally Posted by Chimbatete

Interesting Sailboat

Malango 9.99 (34 ft) check out the dinghy. Interior looks no worse than an RM

[PCP]

Originally Posted by Chimbatete

Interesting Sailboat

Malango 9.99 (34 ft) check out the dinghy. Interior looks no worse than an RM
.....

Hi Chimbatete,

Thanks for posting!

Yes the Malango is a very nice boat but not with the same RM vocation. The RM is made for long range cruising, the Malango is more a day sailer and weekend cruiser, specially the one you have posted. The photo you have posted is not from the 9.99 but from the the first sailboat they have made, the smaller one, the 870.

The 9.99 is a bit more ambitious and it is, like the 870, a pleasure to sail. the 9.99 has two cabins while the 870 only has one. Like the 870, it has a huge cockpit but the interior space and storage are enough for coastal cruising. The boat has a very small tankage, to make it light and fun to sail, but with some modifications to increase the tankage this one can take a couple for long range cruising and even across the pond.

A very nice boat indeed, I would say, a sexy boat:











































and this boat can really go fast. Look at the movie:

Sortie en mer ŕ bord du Malango 999 - YouTube


Regards

Paulo

[Chimbatete]

Wow that is a head turner. Thats dinghy slot is just the icing. I was at the website and it seems that for the basic boat its 100k so figure 150k euros ready to sail that is nice.

[PCP]

Originally Posted by G1000

Some Solaris One 37 interior pictures. Indeed very nice boat. Any clue on price tag?

I have said that if somebody needs to ask the price it is not going to buy this boat

The price is just huge, 220500€ for the basic price with this specifications:

http://www.richardbaldwinyachts.com/...e-37-specs.pdf

The specifications are good but nothing special. If you buy a Salona 38 with the performance, comfort and basic package you will get a boat with higher specifications for almost less 50000€.

For superior specifications I mean: Same mast brand but higher range model (three spreaders), rod on the rig (option on the Solaris), Carbon spinnaker pole (on the Solaris even the aluminium one is optional), stainless steel grid to take the forces of the shrouds and keel (on the Solaris, reinforcements in e glass fiber), Epoxy based resins (Solaris resins are not epoxy), three blade folding propeller (2 blade fixed one in the Solaris), Dracon sails (that can be upgraded), no sails included on the Solaris.

I bet that you can upgrade the Solaris to the Salona specifications but then the Solaris price would be a lot more than 220500€ and the difference to the Salona much bigger. In fact, now that difference is bigger because Salona is offering an introductory price on the 38 and that means about less 30 000€ on that Salona upgrated version, and that means a difference of 80000€ to a lower specification Solaris 37.

That was what I mean. You don't buy a Solaris for the price or specifications but out of passion and for its impeccable finish

Regarding the Solaris 37 I have to say that besides the price I also don't like the interior, I mean those fashionable white cabinets that are trendy on this moment in Italy (they are similar to the ones from the new CS 39). The problem with fashions is that they go away rely quick and you end up with a boat out of fashion in no time I prefer the wood interior of the Salona (in what regards design) even if I am sure they can put you wood cabinets, as on previous Solaris models but that, I am sure, it will mean more money in extras

360 - Salona Yachts

Take a look at what I mean. this is the new Solaris 37 interior:





This is the interior of a bigger Solaris but with wood:





Some more photos of the Solaris 37:















The Solais 37 is a very beautiful boat and a boat that resembles a lot with the Salona 38, except that this one has the keel I want on the Salona and a slightly better designed transom (for my taste).

But on the other hand the Salona will be a lot faster: It was more 10m2 of sail area and weights less 800kg probably due to its epoxy based hull.

Regards

Paulo