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The one without the pilothouse would look better - a lot less plain - with a dodger I think. It is the one I prefer.
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Heres the video of the A27. One gripe I have is that they shouldnt call a 27 footer a budget entry with a price north of $100k.

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Is it just me or is the pilothouse version the better looking of the two?
Like Mitempo I like more the classical version. However I do agree that the 37 pilot house looks particularly well.

I would not attempt to design a pilot house with less than 40ft. I tried to design once one with 40ft but I found out that I needed 43ft to be completely satisfied with the boat looks. The fact that one looks not bad with 37ft gives credit to the designers. A dam good job

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G1000 and Chimbatete. Nice posts

Chimbatete, the best is always expensive I believe the A27 is going to be a winner and to have a winning machine you have to pay. That is true with racing boats, racing cars or racing motorcycles.

If you compare it with a boat with similar specs you are going to see this one is not more expensive and this one has really a nice cruising interior.

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Another new interesting sailboat, 4 feet smaller, the J70:


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Heres the video of the A27. One gripe I have is that they shouldnt call a 27 footer a budget entry with a price north of $100k.
The sad thing is, these days that IS a budget entry. Luckily, with the 10's of thousands of GOB's out there, one can get into a decent big boat for less than the sales taxes on that 27'.
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Doesnt have to be that old Jonb I see 5 year old J100s less than the A27.
And as much as I love some of these boats but thats big dough for a daysailer carbon mast and all.

I think its Paulo who mentioned that some people prefer to spend more than an overnight on a boat then heck id get another modern boat like a Dehler 32 or Elan 31 for what? Another 20K? It caters to the same sailing program.
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Doesnt have to be that old Jonb I see 5 year old J100s less than the A27.
And as much as I love some of these boats but thats big dough for a daysailer carbon mast and all.

I think its Paulo who mentioned that some people prefer to spend more than an overnight on a boat then heck id get another modern boat like a Dehler 32 or Elan 31 for what? Another 20K? It caters to the same sailing program.
I guess the guys that will buy new Archambault or new Jboats are guys that want to win races. A 5 year old boat will not be as competitive as a new boat (another model). Winning is a nice and valuable thing.

In what concerns devaluation these kind of boat have a big one when there is a new model that is faster. The older model can then be a very good option for the ones that like occasionally to race and want to cruise in a really fast boat.

One of the more interesting boats regarding this perspective is the "old" A40 that has a huge difference in price over the new A40RC even in boats separated by one or two years. The old A40 is even better for solo sailing and the difference in speed is marginal.

Look at this difference in prices:

Archambault A40 Boats For Sale

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2004 Archambault A40 Sail New and Used Boats for Sale - www.yachtworld.co.uk

You can have some great boats for not much more money. If the idea is cruising and occasionally racing I would buy this one over the 27 (I have seen even better prices), but off course you would not win major races on this one, only club ones.















But If you do sail as a sport and are good at it then the A27 will make sense and it can even be covered by a Sponsor. To have a good sponsor you have to win and to win you need a winning boat. I can also understand a guy with money that buys the A27 because it is beautiful and one of the fastest boats around and he just loves it. After all we only live once

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Fantastic race on the VOR between Groupama and Puma. For almost a week the two boats maintained a 50NM distance sailing at about the same speed, flat out, leaving all boats behind.

Puma has finally managed to reduce that distance to only 10NM. Hot.

In meantime on Puma they have took time to shoot these wonderful photos of the Horn:





Volvo Ocean Race 2011-2012 | PUMA on the attack as Telefónica's repairs get underway

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