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Paulo - I love this thread, but all the ginormous HD videos cause it to take forever to load and scroll.
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the Scow bow of David Raisonís Mini-Transat yacht offers major advantages in winds of more than 15 knots as well as downwind.
I loved this boat since the first time that I read about! I have plans to build a RG-65 radio controlled scow to test the concept.

If I win the Lottery I will ask some designer like Finot to build a scow like the Pogo 12.50 but with the scow bow.
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Can you share your thoughts about the 2008 Jeanneau Sun Odissey 36i as a family cruiser (in Portuguese if you like)?

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Hi PMCunha and welcome to the thread.

I have an opinion about the Jeanneau 36I and it is about the same as these guys:


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I'm thinking of buying my first boat for mainly weekends and vacations involving coastal stuff around the UK and maybe sailing her to the Med. I'm also hankering after doing the very occasional long passage - perhaps to the Azores and back.

I come from a big yachtie family and they all insist that I should be looking at nothing else but long keel, heavy displacement boats like Hallberg Rassys, Malos, Vancouvers and Island Packets - that sort of thing. The trouble is, these boats are 2-3 times the cost of a mass production boat. While I can see the advantages of extra tankage, huge stability and the ability to hunker down at sea in a Force 11, I just can't justify in my head the extra cost of buying this peace of mind for the sailing I plan to do. In truth I probably couldn't afford it anyway.

I've just come back from two weeks sailing a Jeanneau 36i and she was a sweet as a nut in winds upto 28 kt and sea states of 4-5. So I'm sure she could handle the occasional big blow. She was fantastically gentle and well mannered. No matter what combination of sail we put up, she never seemed to show us excessive lee or weather helm. Build quality looked good - for the price - and everything worked OK. I've also sailed Bavarias, Beneteaus, Westerlys and Vancouvers and none felt as good as this one. ...

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Lived aboard a 2007 Jeanneau 36i for the last two years. The Jeanneau will probably have a lower PHRF rating than the Hunter (mine's 117) meaning that it should be faster. I think you'll find the "fit and finish" and attention to detail better on the Jeanneau. The 36i has a nice head with stall shower. Due to modular construction, the galley on the 36i is the same as the 39i.

Not sure about parts sourcing on the Hunter, but the Jeanneau is a Euro boat--Swedish bilge pump, Italian hoses, great British (Lewmar) hatches, etc. It's all good gear, but as things need replacing (just the bilge pumps so far) I'm getting US-made equivalents. The engine is Yanmar and it's bulletproof. All the deck hardware is Harken (US) and well thought out. I single hand with no problem. The Jeanneau is more of a traditional rig with a 130% genoa, so you'll probably fly a bigger asym spinnaker than the Hunter will hoist. I use an ATN sock which makes flying the asym easier.

Bottom line: Both are good boats that will work for you. Sail them both with your wife (and maybe even daughers) along and see what feels best.

P.S.---If you're looking at new boat and have the resources, I highly recommend you look at the Jeanneau 36i Performance. Deeper keel, taller rig, faster boat.
But they have an advantage ovr me and that is that they have sailed the boat and I have not

I also agree with CJMojo in what regards the 36i performance that seems a lot more appealing to me.



The boat is very elegant and the Marc Lombard design is still very modern, already with a high profile bulbed keel and the beam brought back to a large transom.

:: :: JEANNEAU :: ::

http://www.jeanneauaustralia.com/fil...e_Yachting.pdf



But if the boat you are considering is this one at this price:

JEANNEAU Sun Odyssey 36i , Diesel, 117.500

I would say that you should have a look at these Hanse 40 in Italy:

Hanse 40 yachts - Vendita, barche Hanse 40 usate, nuove e in charter

The jeanneau is a great boat, one of the best among 36ft but will not be a match for an Hanse 40, not in seaworthiness, not in speed and most of all, not in storage space that is one of the few things where the Jeanneau 36i is not very good. Probably the Jeanneau would have a nicer interior for most (me included) but with some luck you can find an epoxy Hanse and that would more than compensate a not so cozy interior even if one very functional and a lot bigger.

Off course if you can bring that price really down, that is another story

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Paulo - I love this thread, but all the ginormous HD videos cause it to take forever to load and scroll.
Thanks Smack.

I would be interested in having more feedback about that. I have no problem to scroll the thread and to see the videos on that size, not even on my laptop that has already some years and is not fast. But we have fast internet in Portugal. I have no idea of the average speed among all sailnet users. I know that in Italy is SLOW.

Regarding the videos, I love HD and sharp images and the ones that have problems supporting that quality just have to click on the video and see it on Vimeo or Youtube and there they can change the quality for low resolution.

Anyway if you are not the exception but the rule I can change the settings.
How about give me some feedback about this guys?

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Paulo,

Had not seen the X33 until a bit ago on another forum, had not looked in here for a day or week or so!

Looks like a nice boat if I could afford it etc.

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I would be interested in having more feedback about that. I have no problem to scroll the thread and to see the videos on that size, not even on my laptop that has already some years and is not fast.
Problem not really with HD and scrolling down, but embedded video size. You set it to be iframe width="1280" height="720" and it is fine on your 20" screen, you see it in full. On my older laptop I see like 75% of it and I need to zoom out or scroll horizontally. Zooming out makes text very small/unreadable and scroll horizontally is a bit annoying. So then you embedding video just set a smaller iframe width="853" height="480". Thanks.


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Ok, that seems valid to me. I will keep when available HD720 (not going for better definitions and 853/450 as standard.

That should allow to view full image on a laptop. If someone has problems with speed, just click on the video and that will allow you to see the movie directly from the provider, there you can just adjust speed/image quality to the one that suits you better.
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I loved this boat since the first time that I read about! I have plans to build a RG-65 radio controlled scow to test the concept.

If I win the Lottery I will ask some designer like Finot to build a scow like the Pogo 12.50 but with the scow bow.
Hi, welcome to the thread, at leat as a poster.

They are thinking in changing 40 class rules to allow more freedom and particularly that kind of bow.

Some posts back I have posted an interview with the designer of that boat and he says that there are some disadvantages with that bow, particularly with up-wind sailing with waves and that seems pretty obvious to me. But that concept showed that a bow has not to be sharp to be efficient. I will bet that we will start to see some more moderated approaches in racing boats and performance boats.

Funny, when I saw that bow I remember something that I have read and never understood on a XVI century book about how should be built a good "Caravela" (discovery sailing boat) and they talked about a well rounded bow. Well after seeing the efficiency of that boat I started to understand what seemed an oddity to me

That kind of bow survived till today on some Portuguese traditional boats, like this one:



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Cruising, racing, voyaging:

Another 40 class boat cruising around the globe and this one on a slow voyage in a very interesting project where you can participate: Want to sail or race on a Jumbo 40class racer, learning to sail with a very experienced sailor and discovering the world in the process?

That seems very seductive to me. The story is like that: Alexis Guillaume a French racing sailor with many races and the founder of "Sailing Away" sail school (1995) decided to take by the letter the name of that school and sailed away on a 4 year project of circumnavigation around the world with some racing a bit everywhere on the way.

He still teach sailing and he accepts on his boat students/crew for racing or cursing along, kind of a very special kind of "charter".

The idea seems great to me and Guillaume seems to be a nice guy. The images speak for themselves:







To know more have a look here:

Merena around the world - Sail Away


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