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Thanks for the updates and pics, Paulo. Beautiful boat! I suspect the motoring performance can be improved with a differrent prop. The challenge will be to get the increased performance without overworking the 40hp engine. I am sure this has already been addressed by other Comet 41 owners.
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Well, two days ago I got not a perfect wind and sea but at least one that I could enjoy even if the waves were too nasty for my wife.

The wind was between 14/22K, too much downwind to be perfect without a spinnaker and the waves were big for the med and on the side. Four hours between 7.5 and 10k put a big smile on my face. Of course the boat could carry a lot more sail - I am only using a jib and the main - not properly a good configuration for downwind sailing.

I think it is time to try the 135% genoa (if I can convince my wife). She has a point: this year has been a particularly windy one over here with gale warnings almost every day. For tomorrow there is one with the Bora blowing between 30 and 45K.

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Re: Dragonfly 32

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Hi Paulo,

You seem get on quite well! Iīm glad to hear youīre satisfied with your boat, it looks fantastic!

I havenīt posted in a while, Iīve been mostly away for more than a month now. Made one trip to Denmark to test sail the new Dragonfly 32, which Iīve posted about earlier. It was launched in late June. Here is a little video (Yep, thatīs me by the tiller!):

Dragonfly 32 Supreme - YouTube

The boat is really nice, feels very big for a 32 footer. We had light winds during the test sail, around 8-10 knots of wind. We seemed to go as fast as the wind during the whole test sail. In a gust the wind increased to about 12-14 knots. Top speed of the day, during this gust, was over 13 knots.

As I said, itīs a big boat and also heavy for a trimaran. Around 3,400kg I think, and this requires a lot of sail. While reaching we used mainsail (57sqm) and code 0 (68sqm). You could really feel the raw power when the gust hit.

We sailed for about 1,5 hours, Jens from Dragonfly did most of the sail handling. The solution for the main sheet and track was a bit tricky, with both lines lead to the same winches. I would probably try to find another solution for this. Where I sail we have very shifty wind angles and need to sheet in/out a lot and also change sheet postition on the track. Otherwise there was not much to complain about. Of course the boat is not as lively as some lighter/less comfortable trimarans.

The interior is huge compared to other trimarans, about the same size as the Dragonfly 35 and a lot bigger than the Dragonfly 28. Very nice solutions, I would choose teak trim instead of maple though. Makes me think of cheap furniture from IKEA...







I havenīt yet had time to test sail my mothers new HR 310, but when I do I will write about it as well!

Cheers!

//Mr W
Now, that is a lovely boat and if you have the money for it go ahead and please invite me for a ride.

I agree, the boat looks big for a 32ft trimaran and has more than enough space for coastal cruising.

Scare us off: What is the price of a decent equipped boat?

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I just can't handle this thread sitting here sad and alone while Paulo is off cruising in his sweet new boat. So, as I am here in the great white north and pilot houses are definitely on my list of possibilities, lets check out the new proposed offering from Sirus, a new 40 footer they are planning to splash in 2014. They are proposing many different configurations and asking customers and others to voice their opinions on what they would want. Here are a few drawings...



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Sure would be an ideal boat for up here in Alaska and beyond. Here is the writeup from Sirus on the planning of the boat.

Sirius-Werft Pln | 40 DS | 40 DS

Come on everyone, lets get some new boats up here and keep this thread going strong!
Hi Alaska,

Thanks for the contribution.

Yes, they are around that boat for several years now. With all that planning and sailor’s contributions I bet it will be a great boat and also an expensive one.

Check out also the other Nordic pilot saloons: Cr Yachts has a new one, Regina de Vindo has a nice 35 and 40ft and Nordship has a full line of new boats. If I had the money for one of those babies and sailed on a cold climate I guess I would chose a Nordship. Remarkably fast and good sailing boats with a great overall quality. Not as detailed as a Sirius however.

There are other interesting and different options, with Southerly, Nordborg and C yachts, not to mention the most known nordic one that just sleeped my mind.

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Eric, do you have those numbers regarding your boat yet?

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Scare us off: What is the price of a decent equipped boat?
Well.... I havenīt seen the complete price list yet, but the touring version base price is EUR 205,900 ex VAT so I guess base price for the supreme version (which I tested, higher mast) is around EUR 220,000 ex VAT. Fully equipped it would be at least EUR 260,000 ex VAT I guess. Worth it? I havenīt figured that out yet! Iīm still considering the Dragonfly 28 as an alternative, although alot smaller. The Pogos are also still on my short list as well, need to try one of those too I guess

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Croatia

Hi guys,

A bit out of the thread, but I know that some of you charter in Croatia, so, after one month and a half sailing in Croatia, a little advice: Avoid central Croatia, specially the Islands, they are overcrowded with everybody looking for a mooring or anchor spot before 3.00 in the afternoon and when you think that there is no more place for anyone there is a guy that is going to put the boat just over yours...terrible.

In the North, a lot less people, almost no charter boats and better sailors with their own boats, more wind, less expensive, in the South (near Dubrovnick and in the Islands), less people and more beautiful Islands. I really don't understand why people prefer to sail the desert and bald Kornati than Elaphiti Islands. Beautiful Island towns and plenty of green. My favorite place is probably the little town on South Sipan, Sudurad. Almost nobody on the anchorage and the Island was almost without tourists when the last boat left. Perfect dinner by the sea.

Lopud is also nearly perfect without cars and with beautiful mountain tracks.


There you have, I hope it is useful to somebvody. Today I am in Cavtat, the Russian Croatian city, I mean, in the port only huge Russian motorboats. Tomorrow I'll be out of Croatia, sailing to Montenegro and Greece.

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Re: Interesting Sailboats

Sailing in Montenegro. Expensive to enter (140 € for a boat over 12m , for one week ) but what a marvel! Only big motorboats on the quays, very few sailboats and you can anchor where you want without someone coming to ask you money or saying you cannot be there.

I am in Kotor. Perfect anchorage, incredible city, World Heritage, (google for it). The only problem will be to go away. My wife has decided we stay one more day.

Four boats on anchorage, one of them is American. Met the guys, nice people. Lots of boats with American flag but I guess they are Russian or Serbian boats

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Sailing in Montenegro. Expensive to enter (140 € for a boat over 12m , for one week ) but what a marvel! Only big motorboats on the quays, very few sailboats and you can anchor where you want without someone coming to ask you money or saying you cannot be there.

I am in Kotor. Perfect anchorage, incredible city, World Heritage, (google for it). The only problem will be to go away. My wife has decided we stay one more day.

Four boats on anchorage, one of them is American. Met the guys, nice people. Lots of boats with American flag but I guess they are Russian or Serbian boats

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Iīm still considering the Dragonfly 28 as an alternative, although alot smaller.
So, yesterday I was out on a test sail with the Dragonfly 28. There was a 8-10 knots breeze with gusts around 12 knots to start with, flat water. I sailed with the swedish Dragonfly represantative, only the two of us.

Started with main (44 sqm) and jib (24 sqm) on a beam reach with speeds around 7-8 knots. We rolled out the code 0 (45 sqm) and speed increased to around 9-12 knots.

Wind then increased to 10-12 knots with 14 in the gusts and we gybed back and hoisted the asymetric spi (105 sqm) on a broad reach, doing 10-12 knots steady, with our top speed of the day at over 14 knots. At this point the boat feels absolutely wonderful, it flies over the water and the ride is super smooth! I could go on forever!

We then turned back upwind, again with main and jib. I canīt say for sure but I think we were tacking over 85-90 degrees, doing 8-9,5 knots of boatspeed, sailing very upright in comfort.

Then it was time to end the test sail and we headed back home to the harbour. This boat is so versatile. Close to the harbour we folded the boat in a couple of minutes, decreasing beam from 6,5 to 2,5 meters. Absolutely amazing folding system on these boats!

The inside of the boat is a bit smallish, alot smaller than the 32, but still very thought through. The v-berth is quite beamy actually, should sleep two adults without problem. The aft bunk underneath the cockpit is a bit small, only 1 meter wide. I think it will suite the kids well, they are still small. It is possible to sleep on both sides in the saloon as well, but passage to the toilet and v-berth is on the starboard side of the saloon table so itīs a bit inconvenient to use the starboard bunk.

The optional cockpit tent is really nice! It creates another room on the boat. Very important I think on such a small boat. The cockpit is pretty roomy especially since it has no main sheet track. Six people can sit in comfort with the tent up.

There is a two burner stove and a sink in the galley and some shelves and lockers. The fridge is under the raised floor on the port side of the saloon table and is good sized.

Storage for clothes and other items is at first sight a bit inadequate, but look closer and there is acutally some storage space under the bunks and some other places. You canīt bring your whole wardrobe but I think that for my family storage space might just be enough. Sails etc can be stored in the floats.

The overall quality and finish seems high and even though the boat is foldable it still feels very rigid when sailing. There was a Honda 15hp outboard which was more than enough for this 2,000 kg boat. It was raised and lowered by pushing a button, which is not possible with the 10hp standard engine. A tiller link made maneuvering very easy.

Here are a couple of videos of this boat, I think one of them was published earlier on this thread:





I woke up this morning, still with a smile on my face. I think this boat will be hard to beat!

Cheers!

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