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Anywho, your design I like. Being picky I'd move the stove away from the bulhead and the f'ward cabin is not much more than a bed is it ? I'd move the accomodations aft, giving the space lost in the sail locker and quarter cabin to the f'wrd cabin. I don't need lavish guest accomodation so give me the space and cramp them up...hee hee.
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You know, on such a small interior like the one in a boat personal tastes and needs will make always a difference. The stove is on that place to maximize the head counter and have the max working space for cooking (we like to cook) . A corner is also the best place to catch fumes vapors and smells and I would have installed there a small device to take them out. That's also the place we had it on the Bavaria and we like it and are used to have it on that place. It would not be really next to the bulkhead, but about 10 cms away (the stove is purposely oversized on the drawing).

About the forward cabin, yes it is just a bed with a long row of small wardrobes on top, but it would be a big and large bed (with a big sit on the middle) (I am big). You cannot have everything (always compromises) and I needed the space for having the large salon and large galley, not to mention the pilot house space and a decent cockpit. For storing clothes there are 3 big wardrobes on the back of the boat (and if needed there are space for more), and space under the front bed (drawers). The boat has an overall big storage capacity.

For me your solution would not have worked cause the big quarter cabin is not for guests, but for the kids . It has space for two and a small kid ( the boat would have space for 7 adults and one kid, not counting that small kid).

A boat has such a small space that everybody should have one designed accordingly to its requirements. That´s why I have designed that one

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You know, on such a small interior like the one in a boat personal tastes and needs will make always a difference. The stove is on that place to maximize the head counter and have the max working space for cooking (we like to cook) . A corner is also the best place to catch fumes vapors and smells and I would have installed there a small device to take them out. That's also the place we had it on the Bavaria and we like it and are used to have it on that place. It would not be really next to the bulkhead, but about 10 cms away (the stove is purposely oversized on the drawing).

About the forward cabin, yes it is just a bed with a long row of small wardrobes on top, but it would be a big and large bed (with a big sit on the middle) (I am big). You cannot have everything (always compromises) and I needed the space for having the large salon and large galley, not to mention the pilot house space and a decent cockpit. For storing clothes there are 3 big wardrobes on the back of the boat (and if needed there are space for more), and space under the front bed (drawers). The boat has an overall big storage capacity.

For me your solution would not have worked cause the big quarter cabin is not for guests, but for the kids . It has space for two and a small kid ( the boat would have space for 7 adults and one kid, not counting that small kid).

A boat has such a small space that everybody should have one designed accordingly to its requirements. That´s why I have designed that one

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Absolutely......no kids here so for us maximise owners cabin, allowance made for the occasional guest or two and of course decent sea berths which because they are used so infrequently should serve two roles, as in settees if in the main cabin.

Interesting point about the stove. For me, as someone who also enjoys to cook , I like to have a bit of bench space on both sides of the stove.
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I had a chat (virtually speaking) with BP about the LM45 and he said that he'd have preferred a more modern underbody but that was what the client wanted. If you look at some of the boats that BP has designed in recent years they have a much more modern underwater shape.

I'm not wishing to start a US v the rest of world brouhaha but it seems that in the main they are a pretty conservative people in many ways.

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Yes, the American cruising market is a very conservative one.

Take for instance the Diva 38. It is a Swedish boat designed and built by Bernt Lindquist 12 years ago. The boat seems as modern as on the day it was designed. Quite the opposite, with most American boats.

























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Yes, the American cruising market is a very conservative one.
Take for instance the Diva 38. It is a Swedish boat designed and built by Bernt Lindquist 12 years ago. The boat seems as modern as on the day it was designed. Quite the opposite, with most American boats.
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Beautiful. Simply lovely. Hate the curved seating though. I do not understand why anybody would have a curved settee in a sailing boat. Useless as a berth, only good for when you have a horde of people on board. Glorious galley, superb carpentry.
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That is one pretty boat all around... and I'll manage to live with those gorgeous curves!

Beautiful, Paulo.... keep 'em coming
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I like curves, especially wen they are in the 32-22-32 type form......ooops......are we talking women, or boat/yachts females? either way, curves are nice!
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With the Diva there are two good 'doubles' and that clever 'bunk bed' cabin aft... any more than 6 on board would be a bit much... so I think the curved settees are less of an issue as far as the berthage goes... mind you I suppose they're not great sea berths if you're planning offshore....
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Beautiful. Simply lovely. Hate the curved seating though. I do not understand why anybody would have a curved settee in a sailing boat. Useless as a berth, only good for when you have a horde of people on board. Glorious galley, superb carpentry.
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With the Diva there are two good 'doubles' and that clever 'bunk bed' cabin aft... any more than 6 on board would be a bit much... so I think the curved settees are less of an issue as far as the berthage goes... mind you I suppose they're not great sea berths if you're planning offshore....
Hey guys, this is a clever boat with an incredibly workmanship. That curved seating is really a good sea berth . You have to be patient and look through this movie (the guy talks a lot...and in Swedish), and you will see how. The boat is not the 38, but a new 35 (also a very nice one) but the system is the same, on the 38 and 35. You are going to be amazed



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I like.... any idea on the cost?
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I like.... any idea on the cost?
Just an idea : Expensive

This is the kind of boat that is made the way the designer wants it without taking any costs into consideration. I guess that someone that is on the market for a Halberg Rassy, a Malo, or a Najad, about this size and want a faster, more exclusive and seaworthy boat that would be admired everywhere, should take this one into consideration. I believe the price would not differ that much.

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