Great insight into your personal likes and dislikes. There is one problem though. You never mentioned a Salona. If I were a betting man, I would put money on their being a Salona in your future
I don't think there will be any other boat in my future than the Comet 41s that I own now. In many aspects is very similar to a Salona. I would not buy it new over a Salona because the Comet is much more expensive and the difference in price would not be justified for me. I am quite happy with it.
Regarding those two boats, I would not exchange my Comet or a Salona over a Saare. Regarding that one I was just talking about what would be ideal on a future that I hope it will never arrive, I mean the need to have a more sedate and less lively boat due to age limitations. Hell, I knew that a 83 year old guy that sails alone with his wife exchanged last year his 2008 Salona 42 by a new Grand Soleil 43 and I hope to have the stamina to keep going with lively boats even at that age
Obviously others think and fell other way:
..An experienced sailor friend recently bought a near new Arcona 400 and took it to the Med; found it much too lively (shorthanded) in a Biscay gale and for coastal cruising with most time at anchor is thinking 10 tonnes of displacement might have been better than 7 for a comfortable cruising experience, despite the performance loss.
As I have said no right or wrong here but the important is to know exactly what one is buying and that it is really what he wants.
Sawpwraia, the Arcona is a boat with about 8000kg, the same type of my own boat or the Salona 41. They would perform in a gale the way they would supposed to perform. Safely but more lively than a 10 T as a 10T boat will be more lively than a 14T boat with the same length (a steel boat for instance). A 5000kg 40ft would be more lively than the Salona or the Arcona. More lively means not necessarily more dangerous but certainly demanding a more experienced sailor and involving more discomfort (and more excitement).
Part of this thread has been about that, helping finding the right boat to each sailor and that means different boats even if for the same basic purpose.
I bet your experienced friend was used to more heavier boats? and probably these was the first experience with the Arcona in a a gale? I would find it very interesting if you can ask him if he think that he had make the wrong choice for him buying the Arcona 400 (410?) or if all in all he is satisfied and that was just the right boat for him, no matter being more lively (and fast).
David, Regarding the Swedestar 415 that is another story and I would trade my boat for one in an heartbeat if someone purposes me that crazy deal and I say crazy because the Swedestar is a very expensive boat, much more than the Saare and probably 2 times the price of a Salona (or more).
That is the same type as my boat (41ft performance cruiser) but with a different design criteria, more narrow and with a much bigger B/D. Not many would prefer that design criteria but I know that I would, as I would prefer the exquisitely finished interior. I like also the idea of a classic boat that will remain classic when boats with more modern shapes (today) will become outdated and look just old. That's probably because I am getting old
and I will not think in having another boat in the future.
I have never seen a Comfortina 39 in the flesh but that also has some nice features at a sensible price (but don't like the twin back stays to bottom edge of the transom - certain aesthetics like that would be a deal breaker for me !)
I have been inside them several times and I love the interior as well as the design criteria and the I would not care about the back-stay but if I have not a problem having a classic looking boat with a modern hull (even if in a classical tradition) I would object in having a classic looking boat with an out dated hull and the hull of the Comfortina 39 is out dated. Have a look at the two hulls:
Even regarding the Swedestar I would have preferred a slightly larger transom and the beam a bit brought back but as it is is still acceptable for me while the one of the Comfortina looks just unacceptably old.
That would not mean much for some but would mean for me. I agree that the boat is fair priced even if you need a long list of options that would pull the price up. The boat is fast (even if slower than the Sweedstar, the Salona or my own boat). For that price and type of boat I think the Arcona 410 is a better option. You would experience in a gale the same type of behavior with all the boats mentioned, except with the Sweedstar that would be more comfortable and better upwind in really very demanding conditions. but the difference would not be that big.
However I will agree that I like more the Comfortina interior than the one from the Arcona. Not a big difference but the Comfortina is just perfect, with an impeccable quality, except that it has not a trough the hull view, put that would not be difficult to install as an option.
Have a look at a recent test sail. I don't know what the guy is saying but I am sure he is saying nice things about the boat
Comfortina 39 - en juvel