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Guillaume Verdier

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I just wondered why VPLP isn't planing to build a cruiser/racer. After their success in the last VG they could use the fame for a big demand...
Marc Van Peteghem and Vincent Lauriot-Prévost are specialists in the design of racing and cruising multihulls. They are the ones that developed with Alain Thebault the Hydroptere, the Trimaram BMW Oracle (winner of last America's cup), and the best racing trimarans among them Groupama, Crepes Whahou and more recently the giant tri Prince de la Bretagne. They also design cruising monohulls among them the entire line of Lagoons, the Sig cats as well as some very big cruising cats.

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They had centered their talents on multihulls design and have no designs of cruising mono-hulls.

I am just guessing but I believe that the recent victories in Open 60 designed by them and Verdier has much more to do with Verdier then with them.

Guillaume verdier is a young very talented NA with experience in designing racing and cruising monohulls and multihulls, many in collaboration with VPLP.

He is behind the NZ america's Cup AC72. In what regards cruising his major design is the Shipman 63, working for J&J. The problem with young NA is that in what regards cruising the projects come to the hands of major firms, like J&J or VPLP and then they give them to younger and talented NA for developing in their name

But it is only a question of time for Verdier to become a big one by its own name. I bet that we will see a lot more of winning racers come out of his mind before we see a major brand call him to design a big production boat.

You have to remember that the French have a big number of talented major NA and an even bigger number of talented young NA. Among all them it is difficult to make a living. I guess that he is very well with VPLP and it is a signal of respect and honesty from VPLP (a great name in boat design) allowing the winning Vendee Globe boats to be credited to VPLP/Verdier.

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guillaume verdier - architecture navale - VG 2012. Diffrences de conception...

guillaume verdier - architecture navale - Introduction Projets

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Re: teak deck alternatives

Paulo/Sapwraia,

Thank you both for your insights. Much appreciated.

Sapwraia, I've really enjoyed that Adventure 40 thread. It will be interesting to see if it moves any further than just design planning.
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...The race has been great. I am a fan of Tabarly, the one that is currently in third. He is the descendant of a great family of professional sailors and I would love to see him raise to that very exclusive first division, racing with the best, on Open 60.
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Well, ti seems that it will be the case. Tabarly is making a fantastic race. To understand that you have to know that he is being pursued by the great Morvan, the 3 times France offshore solo champion, that on the last 8 days had tried usefully to recover the 50Nm that he had lost to him. 8 days later he is at 52nm with about 550nm to the finish.

Transat Bretagne Martinique 2013

Why do I find it extraordinaire? Because Gildas Morvan is probably the greatest Figaro sailor, the only great one that chose to remain mostly on the class instead of racing bigger boats. Look at his race record (only looking at Podiums on major races):

Palmares:

2012
1e Transat AG2R LA MONDIALE avec C. Dalin
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2011
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1e Generali Solo
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2010
2e Championnat de France de course au large en Solitaire
2e WOW Cap Istanbul
1e Quiberon Solo
3e Transat AG2R LA MONDIALE avec B. de Broc

2009
1e Championnat de France de Course au Large en Solitaire
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1e Transat BPE
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2008
1e Championnat de France de Course au Large Solitaire
2e Solitaire du Figaro
2e Cap Istanbul
1e Course des Falaises
3e Solo Arrimer
2e Trophée SNSM
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2007
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3e Finale du Championnat de France
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3e Calais Round Britain Race
1e Transmanche
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2006
2e Route du Rhum – La Banque Postale en Classe 40
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2e Course des Falaises
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2e National Pogo 40
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2005
2e Championnat de France de Course au Large en Solitaire
2e Route du Ponant
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2e Generali Solo
3e Trophée BPE

2004
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2e Generali Solo
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2003
2e Trophée BPE avec B. Pacé
2e Route du Ponant
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1e Generali Méditerranée
1e Tour de Bretagne avec B. Pacé

2002
1e Route du Ponant
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2001
2e Route du Ponant
1e Tour de Bretagne avec C. Caudrelier
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1e Trophée BPE avec C. Caudrelier

2000
1e Champion de France de Course au Large en Solitaire
1e Porquerolles Figaro
3e Solitaire du Figaro
1e Double à Brest avec Betrand Pacé
2e Route du Ponant
2e Transat AG2R avec B. de Broc

1999
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2e Solo CGMer/Port La Vie
3e Solitaire du Figaro

1998
1e Solo Delmas
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3e Solo Dunes de Flandre
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1997
1e Solo Delmas
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3e Internationaux de France de Match Racing
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1995
Champion de France de Soling
Coupe de l'América - Marc Pajot "France 2 France 3"

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Tabarly performance on 8 straight days resisting the pressure of one of the greatest sailors on the class is a Champions performance. I hope nothing wrong happens with the boat because I am sure that if it is the case we will have a new Transat winner. Tabarly has a god race record and some victories but this one will be its first Transat.

Site Officiel de la Transat Bretagne Martinique 2013

We have another great Tabarly. Nice



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Re: Teak and cork.

Cork? Interesting. Not sure how I feel about its looks. Definitely like it better with the darker contrasting material. I wonder if it's any cooler under your feet?

I think the only reason I like the teak (ish) look is that it breaks up the monotony of a solid colored deck. Good point regarding some areas painted grey (anti-slip?). I would think it would have the same pleasing look to my eye.
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Cork? I wonder if it's any cooler under your feet?

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Yes, cooler in the summer, warmer in winter and besides that soft to the touch.

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Yes, cooler in the summer, warmer in winter and besides that soft to the touch.
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Kiwi's AC speed secret !

every yacht should have one

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New CR 380DS

I have posted already about this boat that among the ones that want a relatively fast, high quality 38ft DS, and have the money for it, it is a an interesting option. It is on the water

The interiors, as usually on CR, look very nicely done with a great living space. The hull is very modern, the boat is not heavy for a 38ft DS (7.700 kg) specially if we consider the boat has around 3000kg of ballast. It has a moderate beam (3.63m) with the beam brought aft. With a very good B/D ratio and a modern keel this boat will have a lot of power and with 78sqm of sail area will leave many cruising boats on its wake.

The boat is not ugly but I guess that the cabin could have a nicer design. As it is it does not really look traditional neither modern.













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Re: Interesting Sailboats

The cork deck is somewhat intriguing, but I doubt it has the impactresistence needed to keep the cork surface intact. It is an agglomerated cork product, sort of like particleboard, and the key is the glue used to hold the bits of cork together. Once the surface is compromised (by falling tools, winches, etc. ) particles will break out and compromise the rest of the deck. This type of technology has been used for a while in winecorks (mostly because it is cheaper and TCA control is better). But those adhesives harden over time, and are not very UV resistent and prone to discoloration. I am sure corkdeck has better UV properties than the adhesives used in agglomerated winecorks, but that remains to be seen. I haven't been able to find any pics of older decks and the effect of weathering, only newly installed. I wonder why?
But why bother, give me a fiberglass deck with good non -skid, it's cheaper and (almost) maintenance free.
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