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This look good!

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This look good!

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Yes, it does. However, I'm a bit surprised at these titbits from the text:

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Bolt 37 is a thoroughbred racing yacht
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Aimed squarely at the owner who while being excited by the TP’s and 40’ Racers on the market, chooses to apportion a much smaller budget to their racing and be closer in speed to the production cruiser-racers which make up a typical local fleet.
Are they saying that it's not a "thoroughbred" after all, but merely an extremely spartan "cruiser"/racer?
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Boy is that propaganda! The last time we sailed to NZ, 2008 coffee was bad, really bad and that was everywhere. But I will pray to the great Volcano's of the land that things have changed. We are bringing three different coffee presses with us and hope we can find coffee being sold that does not come in a can.

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I have posted already about this boat that among the ones that want a relatively fast, high quality 38ft DS, and have the money for it, it is a an interesting option. It is on the water

The interiors, as usually on CR, look very nicely done with a great living space. The hull is very modern, the boat is not heavy for a 38ft DS (7.700 kg) specially if we consider the boat has around 3000kg of ballast. It has a moderate beam (3.63m) with the beam brought aft. With a very good B/D ratio and a modern keel this boat will have a lot of power and with 78sqm of sail area will leave many cruising boats on its wake.

The boat is not ugly but I guess that the cabin could have a nicer design. As it is it does not really look traditional neither modern.











What are all of you thinking about how far forward the galley is on this boat?
Starting to get into the forward half of the boat and motion starts to go up. On our last boat, Mason 44 the head was in that location and I had a hard time holding on while taking a pee. You know one hand for the boat one for yourself. I thinking that all that NZ coffee on passage might end up on my bare feet when brewing some up while on passage. Nice looking galley though but a bit short on counter space when you are using the sink too.

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This one will be fast downwind... What do you think, Paulo?
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What are all of you thinking about how far forward the galley is on this boat?
Starting to get into the forward half of the boat and motion starts to go up. On our last boat, Mason 44 the head was in that location and I had a hard time holding on while taking a pee. You know one hand for the boat one for yourself. I thinking that all that NZ coffee on passage might end up on my bare feet when brewing some up while on passage. Nice looking galley though but a bit short on counter space when you are using the sink too.

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You cannot think in boast for any other use than the one you favor. Most people in the Baltic or Med and certainly in many other parts don't cook with the boat slamming in waves. They just have a nice relatively short sailing till a nice spot then they swim and have a meal. Or if it is a longer journey they prepare the meal the night before at anchor.

Of course you are right, the best place for the galley is the center of the boat....if one cooks frequently with the boat on the move and that just don't happen for 95% of the cases at least for the vast majority. It has a big importance on a voyage boat not in one meant primarily for coastal cruising.

Besides that negative point the space is a nice one, allowing good support, a big cooler, a reasonable amount of space and big storage for a 38ft (look at the other side, you can see it on the photo from the saloon).

As you can see they offer another version with a linear galley, probably bigger but not so nice in my opinion.

Ask your wife what is the one that she likes more. I trust more in her opinion about that. That's my wife that has a say on that part of the boat and sometimes what I think is better is not what she considers better.

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Downwind (big) racer:

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This one will be fast downwind... What do you think, Paulo?
What can I say? it is evident and already proved that this shape of hull can generate more power and be faster downwind so it will be a very suceseful sailboat on a 95% downwind race, if well designed, and I have no doubts that Reichel / Pugh will not miss it. So we have a winner.

Well, I guess that I am more an upwind man, so I don't have to like it









Curiously the boat is relatively narrow, will have a very small wet surface and a very good performance in light winds. I wonder if a hull shape like the one of the last 100ft from Finot, more beamier, will not be faster with stronger winds. This is not a race boat but I can imagine a race boat along those lines for racing downwind on the trade winds.. It would be hugely powerful and even if not particularly fast upwind or with light winds, on the the trade winds should be quite a rocket. Curiously, even if much more beamier I like more the hull shape, specially the bow







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Solo circumnavigation

Another solo circumnavigation in a small sailboat successively completed in an inexpensively used 40class racer. It is the first Chinese to complete the journey and he has done that on the fast lane: 137days 20 hours, about the time that American old guy want to achieve in a much bigger and hugely more expensive sailboat.





48 years old Guo Chuan is a very curious guy. First stange thing about him is that he only set foot on a sailboat at the age of 33. The second thing is that the guy was a space engineer with a master's degree in aircraft control at Beijing University of Aeronautics and Astronautics, and an MBA at Peking University and used to work at commercial satellite launch projects in China. Third and probably more odd thing is that, starting at 33, letting go his lucrative profession, he managed to be the first professional sailor in China. That is not only odd but admirably: A passionate guy for sure.

Of course for doing that he started as an amateur as many that want to become professional ocean racing sailors. He had done in 2006 the Clipper Round the World, more seriously and already as a professional he had made the VOLVO Ocean Race in 2008-2009. More recently (2011) the first Chinese to participate in the Mini Transat and successfully finish it.

Curiously I guess that the fact that China is interested in sailing, particularly offshore sailing and the fact they lack good offshore sailors helped him to become a professional. In France there are hundreds of talented offshore sailors trying to become professionals and that makes things harder.

Anyway, congratulations to him that set a new record for solo circumnavigation on a 40ft sailboat.

I wonder how much time it will take for having a circumnavigation non stop race in 40 class racers? I guess they could make that as an initiation class on the Vendee Globe. Doing that on a 60ft Open class boat is not an adventure anymore but just a great race. They could open the more adventurous side again opening that to 40ft racing boats. can you Imagine what would be a Vendee Globe with 20 Open 60 plus 30 40class racers? The density of the interest and day to day news would increase dramatically.
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Yes, it does. However, I'm a bit surprised at these titbits from the text:

Bolt 37 is a thoroughbred racing yacht
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Aimed squarely at the owner who while being excited by the TP’s and 40’ Racers on the market, chooses to apportion a much smaller budget to their racing and be closer in speed to the production cruiser-racers which make up a typical local fleet.


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Are they saying that it's not a "thoroughbred" after all, but merely an extremely spartan "cruiser"/racer?
That is a Ker design and it will be fast as all Ker designs. It is a racer, not a cruiser racer, but contrary for instance to a Ker 40 or a Farr 400, it is designed to be "cheap" and easily exploited and yet very competitive under IRC or ORCI handicap rules, capable of beating in compensated time faster all carbon racers (I think that is stupid, but that is the essence of handicap rating )

This explains it:

Purpose built for handicap racing under IRC and ORCi, the Bolt 37’ will be exciting to sail, and very fast for its size, but at the same time the parameters have been selected with a careful eye on the rating rules. Extensive CFD based optimisation techniques have led to lower hydrodynamic resistance but a particular effort has also been made to ensure the yacht is forgiving to sail, making it easier for the crew to extract its full performance potential.

This one, contrary to some production cruiser racers is not a carbon boat:

Hull, Deck, Bulkheads and stiffners made from multi and unidirectionnal glass, vinylester resine and PVC foam over female tooling. All laminations are done with vacuum assisted infusion technique for perfect resine/fiber ratio and low air void.

and it will be made in Turkey to keep the price down: 160 000 euros for a very fast racer and a potential winner in handicap at high level is not much. A 37ft production cruiser equipped to win at top level in ORCI or IRS will cost more and will be a lot slower in real time.

anyway Ker can say what he wants but this baby with this hull:





With a typically high performance Ker stern, 4200 kg of weight, a bulb at 2.8m, a B/D of 50% with almost all the ballast on the bulb and a moderated beam (3.48m) is going to kick ass and will be a very fast boat, downwind and upwind. He says the boat will be easy but that transom requires a very good crew to go at the limit downwind. But that's the point isn't it? After all this is a race boat and race boats are for expert sailors or for learning how to be an expert one

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