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Looks like an alternative name was a "shallop".. Is this more like it?


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1984 Fast/Nicholson 345 "FastForward"

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Very similar Faster. The sailplan is very close with the little gaff and same size masts. The Coral Bay Cowhorns are a keel boat between 30' and 35'.

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I think tou are referring to these boats:

http://www.allatsea.net/article/March_2009/Boat_Building_in_the_Boondocks_-_Part_Two

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Back to the Jeanneau 409 and the Bavaria 40. The interest on those two boats has been huge, from the press and from the public. Many boat tests were done and there are several good movies on the net (mostly from magazine boat tests). A good movie can give us a pretty good idea of the boat.

Both boats have very good details and some weak points. This time I am going to ask you guys to have a look at the movies and to post about what you find good, not so good and really bad. Kind of a static boat comparison on Sailnet, by the members that want to participate. Let's see what comes out

Bavaria 40:

YouTube - Bavaria Cruiser 40

YouTube - Hamnen.se testar Bavaria 40!

Jeanneau 409:

YouTube - Sun Odyssey 409.mov

Neustart mit der Sun Odyssey 409 - YACHT: YACHT tv

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Well, for me the Jeanneau wins the 'rowing test' battle

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That's it Paulo,

The one on the lower right side. I have seen that photo but it is a really low resolution picture. Thanks.
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You mean, like this:

What is this boat?
Tell me, then we'll get back to the Jeaneau's, I promise!
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Huh ....that Bavrian 40 looks kinda plain jane inside for the bucks?

Sun Odyssey 409 .... looks sweet

Ya I looked this is pure boat porn lol.....

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There are things that in my opinion are better on the Bavaria:

The Galley is bigger and probably more functional, the boat seems rock solid (look at that guy doing gyms on the handrails), plenty of handrails, that big swimming platform is a lot larger than the one from the 409, the boat has a geenaker retractable boom and the possibility of having 4 winches on the sides (German sheeting for the main sail). It has also a very smart way to protect the outside plotter from weather and thieves and off course it has that Kevlar protection on the hull against impacts.

On the Jeanneau 49:

The interior and the outside have a better overall design, the boat is faster, with more sail and less weight, the lateral passage on the deck is much bigger, the Genoa winches are closer to the wheel.

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What is this boat?
Tell me, then we'll get back to the Jeaneau's, I promise!
Sorry, I missed your post.

That was a Cowhorn, or at least it was what it said on the picture. I know very little about traditional American boats, but the rig of that one looked like the rig on my first sailboat.

Mine was similar to this one,
but modified by me. It had a big front boom, a deck and I used as front sail a jib and on the boom a thing that was a misture of a genoa and a geenaker (i thought that I had invented the thing ). The boat had a modified keel with lead on the bottom to increase stability and sailing power. It was a powerful boat and a nice one too. Had lot's of fun with it. Lots of good memories

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