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Very interesting this race with three different types of trimarans: 50ft, 70ft and unlimited with only one racing on that class, the 80ft long Price de la Bretagne and I say interesting because the little boats, even without my preferred one (crepes whaou), are putting a big fight against the bigger boats and lead the race till near Gibraltar. Only then the Maxi trimaran and one of the Mod70 were able to pass the three leading 50ft boats that even so are not far away and way ahead of the remaining Mod70. What a fight

It has been a difficult race, most the way upwind and more upwind ahead, probably with 3 meters waves, while going up the West coast of Portugal till Lisbon with 15K winds. It is going to be an uncomfortable and wet ride, but a fast one

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Tan 66

and since we are talking about multihulls...



the Tan 66 a Marc Van Peteghem design, built by Marsaudon Composite. An all carbon boat made on a shipyard that makes a lot of racing boats. A fast one no doubt.

On the last years the number of big fast casts has increased a lot. It seems conservatism is finally going away in what regards millionaires boats, not only in what regards multihulls but also monohulls: They are more and more modern, faster and faster.
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Re: Interesting Sailboats

While I'm a big fan of the racing multis, when it comes to cruising I tend to view muiltihulls as boats for those who prefer not to hold their wine glass while underway.

On the other hand, if you want (have) to go cruising with a wife / family that prefers all the comforts of shore-based living, including the pets, then perhaps it is the perfect solution.

For me, I can't see myself cruising in a multihull. It just wouldn't feel right.

Still beautiful to look at, however.
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Well, they don't have a sea but they have lake Balaton and lots of wind:





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Well, they don't have a sea but they have lake Balaton and lots of wind:
Wow, what a hate mission for those poor bastards on the Melges 24.

They certainly do have a lot of wind on Lake Balaton, and it also appears that they only sail upwind, as I did not see any video of a boat going downwind. Does it mean the lake is only one way?

It was interesting to see how stiff those long, narrow boats are. Crew is sitting comfortably in the cockpit as they simply power through the chop like butter. Impressive. The more modern designs - the ones without 15 fellows on the trapeze - really struggle in the puffs, even with reefed mains - e.g., the X Yachts and the Hanse, as well as several other light displacement fin-keelers.

In the second video, which starts out with the boat going upwind on jib only, I immediately thought to myself: "I wonder where all the windsurfers and kite boarders are?" Then immediately a windsurfer flashes across the screen.

Anyway, looks like a lot of fun, plus you don't have to rinse salt off everything when you're done. How cool is that?
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Hungarian sailboats: Nau 370

I have posted those videos not only because I didn't knew that in Hungary they have a strong sail activity but also because I saw among those sailboats some modern ones that I didn't recognize. A little search and BIG SURPRISE:

Look at this beauty, designed by Andrej Justin, a Slovenia NA (one that I had already mentioned about another boat) and made by Nautic, a local shipyard with lots of activity and some new beautiful boats.

look at this beauty:




low tech boats? Hummmm:

"The new model of the Nautic range which follows our philosophy: combining elegance, speed and of course comfort.
Combination of these great features created by Andrej Justin, just as before, who earned international reputation by the RC44 project.The extravagant appearance of the boat reflects the latest trends, paying attention for performance. The large cockpit and interior spaces are unique in this category.

Hull:
Hull and deck fully made of carbon-epoxy sandwich structure with AIREX PVC foam core. Main pieces is pruduced with the latest vacuum infusion technology to reach maximum strength at lowest weight. The hull gains its final stiffness by high temperature heat cure. The coating of the boat made of UV resistant isoftal based gelcoat. Hull and deck is joined by bonding and lamination.

Keel:
”T” shaped structure built up from surface coated steel frame covered by foil and fitted with a cast lead bulb in a weight of 1300 kgs encapsulated in GRP to get perfect shape and prevent corrosion. Keel structure is bonded to the hull recess and also connected by stainless steel bolts to the keelbox through the hull.

Steering:
Elliptical balance rudder with aluminum or stainless steel shaft covered by GRP foil shape. Self aligning bearings and complete steering gears provided by Jefa with a leather covered dual spoke aluminum wheel in a size of 1700 mm. This system gives a very smooth and accurate steering.

Cockpit:
A very spacious cockpit allows comfortable cruising and easy and fluent movement during racing for the crew. Four lockers help to storage auxiliary stuff. Seats and transom bridge is coverd in teak. A self draining locker can be found below helmsman’s position for general use or for life raft. At the stern a power retractable bathing platform installed with a recessed bathing ladder.

Interior:
The huge interior is available in a two cabin and three cabin versions. Interior GRP modules made of epoxy to ensure a winning combination of durability and lightweigth. GRP surfaces comes in white glossy finish equipped with wooden slats and frames for aesthetic look. Two cabin version offers a large aft cabin with much space for two persons and also a spacious front cabin for another two persons, while three cabin layout offers two standard aft cabins and a front cabin for six persons. All the cabins separated by doors from the saloon. Floorboards are made from marine plywood with white striped mahogany finish. Saloon provides two large couches comfortable for six people. The large double leaf fold down table is removable to gain maximum space. Bathroom located behind navigation table separated with door. In three cabin layout it is placed by front cabin accessible from saloon.

Galley takes place at the left of saloon right next to the companionway. L shaped section ensures easy handling of gas stove, compressor cool box and double stainless steel sink. Workbench is made of high resistance sheet. Lockers fitted for kitchen stuffs. Navigation station is at the opposite of galley, build up from a chart table, lockers for devices and a bracket for optional navigation instruments.Lighting are halogen spot lights in the ceilings for general use, and adjustable spots for reading in every cabin. Adjustable powered LED stripes installed in the saloon for oblique moodlighting."


Have a good look at the boat, a very nice one:

Nautic Boat - Nautic Boat - Nautic 370

except for a lousy galley and (in that boat) no true head?
I like almost everything about the boat, with the exception of the interior points I mentioned and the quality seems okay.
This seems to be much of a custom boat so it should not be difficult to get a decent cruising interior.

Technical data of the NAU 370 RUN:

Overall length: 10.990 m
​​Waterline Length: 10.485 m
Overall width: 3.460
Height: 1900 mm
Draft - lake / sea: 1.95m/2.45 m
Keel: 1600 kg
Total weight carbon 4000 kg

It can also be made in fiberglass and in that case it will weight more 600kg

Should be very fast and stiff, specially with the deep draft. It seems that it is not only the Polish that are making great sailboats

And it is not the only one. that was the one that caught my attention on the movie: 44ft racer by the same NA:



Yes the movie sucks but the boat has only 3000kg and that's a 44fter

Have a look here:

Nautic Boat - Nautic Boat - Nautic 12 Racer
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While I'm a big fan of the racing multis, when it comes to cruising I tend to view muiltihulls as boats for those who prefer not to hold their wine glass while underway.

On the other hand, if you want (have) to go cruising with a wife / family that prefers all the comforts of shore-based living, including the pets, then perhaps it is the perfect solution.

For me, I can't see myself cruising in a multihull. It just wouldn't feel right.

Still beautiful to look at, however.
And in what I hope would be my last post for some time let me say to Mr Pelicano that I disagree. If not for the price I would love to have one of these:



The monohull is a Pogo 50 and it made 4th overall in the last ARC among 300 sailboats beating many racer cruisers much bigger. well, there was not a Dragonfly 32 making that Transat otherwise it would have ashamed a lot of boats, multihulls and monohulls alike.

To be true I would have preferred the Dragonfly 35 but the 32 as such a smart and good quality interior that I would not mind to cruise in one, quite the contrary.

The 35:





In fact the 32 is a superior design and the detail of the stairs sliding around to give access to the back cabin or to allow space to work on the galley is just a great design, as the location of the refrigerator. The diference in interior space is not what one would expect between a 32 and a 35ft boat.

By the way I visited the boat in Dusseldorf and the guy from the shipyard was making fun of me because I could not find the refrigerator. Yes It has one and a very big one for a 32ft boat and yes, I could not find the dam thing without the him telling me where to look. Of course my wife is not of the same opinion in what regards interior space, so that ends up dreaming of having one



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Enjoy your summer cruise, Paulo!
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Enjoy your summer cruise, Paulo!
Thanks all.

All is packed up. Leaving tomorrow.

One more post, the Elan 400 test sail by YachtingMonthly.

The last words pretty much sums it up : It's quick.. It performed beautifully...it feels wonderfully...it felt delicious..it is huge fun ....It looks amazing, it sails like a dream.

..and this tester is known to be a man that normally does not make a lot of praises about the boats he tests. Fact is that when he is not impressed he pretty much describes the boat. It seems that he was impressed by this one

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Having a safe and relaxing cruise, Paulo! We will all eagerly await your return, all tanned and rested.

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