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Ovni-Club : Alubat sailboats Ovni yachts Owners Association fr

Found the oveni owners forum/webpage in less than 30 secs googling....I would imagine that the other boats have similar web pages to ask questions of actual owners.

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Re: Interesting Sailboats

Thanks, Marty- I searched the forum several months ago (not wanting to really become a member), but came up with zilch. I was specifically wondering about Paulo's ideas on the matter, since it's a bit about both two vs one rudder and centerboard vs traditional keel, and would prefer the opinion of someone who I think has quite a bit of experience (if not practical sailing experience, at least the theory behind it) to help me answer the question(s). I'm sure Paulo will raise more, but I think many of the Ovni owners have probably limited experience dealing with storm conditions, so this may boil down to theory-based opinion (which is ok- beggars can't be choosers). I don't want to take away from this thread, though-- but these really are interesting sailboats.. at least to me.

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stern view, so hull #1 does have two tillers...........
Yes, you are right. It seemed it had only one on the picture you have posted previously.

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Paolo- I'm wondering about how well the Ovni's/Allure's/Boreal's (not necessarily in that order) might handle stormier conditions than say > 40 kts tws. I know that's a bit specific, but there's not much out there in the way of information or experience, even for the Ovni's- which are the oldest of the 3 makes. This may boil down to speculation, but until we fly over to either the UK or France to test sail one of these, that's ok. Do you (or does anyone) have any idea?
Welcome to the thread!

I have an idea LOL. Aluminiun French centerboarders were born as voyage boats and a voyage boat sooner or later will get bad weather. Yes, all of them can take bad weather and many have endured storms.

May I recall you that one of the most famous voyagers, Jimmy Cornell after several circumnavigations with different types of boats had choose as is final perfect voyage boat a French aluminium centerboarder? A OVNI 435. Now Cornell is even more impressed with Allures that in my opinion are a step ahead of traditional OVNI even if OVNI has now a different kind of centerboard that I know not well but looks promising.



That does not mean that this type of boat is the only suited to voyage but certainly it is one of them and the one favored by the French that have a huge variety of boats to choose.

Here you have a movie of one enduring 70K at port in the Arctic (I would hate to have my boat on those conditions) and some sailing with heavy wind even if not in storm conditions.







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... but I think many of the Ovni owners have probably limited experience dealing with storm conditions, so this may boil down to theory-based opinion (which is ok- beggars can't be choosers). I don't want to take away from this thread, though-- but these really are interesting sailboats.. at least to me.

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Ray, I would say that comparing experience in bad weather between owners of OVNIS and owners of any other type of boats the chances are that the owners of OVNIS have more experience just because they have bought a voyage boat to voyage and when you voyage a lot sooner or later you will get bad weather. Once I drank some bears with a OVNI owner at the Paris boat show. It turns out that the guy had circumnavigated 3 times with the same boat....Do you see what I mean? I am sure he had got its share of bad weather.

Here you have the OVNI forum and even if in French I guess it will be of some use to you:



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... but I think many of the Ovni owners have probably limited experience dealing with storm conditions, so this may boil down to theory-based opinion (which is ok- beggars can't be choosers). I don't want to take away from this thread, though-- but these really are interesting sailboats.. at least to me.

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Ray, I would say that comparing experience in bad weather between owners of OVNIS and owners of any other type of boats the chances are that the owners of OVNIS have more experience just because they have bought a voyage boat to voyage and when you voyage a lot, sooner or later, you will get bad weather. Once I drank some bears with a OVNI owner at the Paris boat show. It turns out that the guy had circumnavigated 3 times with the same boat....Do you see what I mean? I am sure he had got its share of bad weather.

Here you have the OVNI forum and even if in French I guess it will be of some use to you:



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If the results of the Youth America's cup can give an idea of the youth sailing potential in what regards Match racing and sailing America's cup boats, than NZ wins hands down. First and second after the 7 races with Portugal in third at only one point of the second NZ team, being the first of the non sponsored (by the main teams).

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Exactly what I was looking for- thank you, Paolo!
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Used to race on a Luffe 37'er and lusted for one of those, but....
What do you meant by that BUT......?
I will be test sailing a Luffe 37.09 and 3.6 on September 28-29. On september 30 I will test the Dragondly 28 charter boat (it is available for tests only on Mondays). So far I am doing just coastal sailing. I think the Black Sea (where I sail) is similar to the Baltic in terms of waves but generally not so windy and lack of islands. The only positive thing apart from the possibility for all year round sailing, is that draft is not a big issue in most of the places along the western coast. But I cannot make my mind whether to opt for a Luffe 37.09 or a Dragonfly 28. Both shipyards gave me similar price offers. Luffe is on my heart while Dragonfly tickles my wish for something different. I am sure that by its higher speed and beaching abilities it will make a more versatile boat for coastal sailing. That's why I wil test sail them both in two consequtive days in order to make a choice. But I guess it will not be an easy one. I should mention that 100% I sail single handed with my wife or occasional friend as a guest during the summer season.
I apologise that this post is more enquiring than enlightening and could be qualified as off topic.
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